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#390921 - 04/21/08 09:31 PM Re: ENERGY Collection [Re: puffadder]
cxt Offline
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Puffy

Please don't assume people are "cynics and doubter" based upon looking upon kapows posts with some degree of "huh???"

You don't know us, how we train or what we belive....all you know is that several of us find kapows posts a bit dodgy.

You read into that what you will.....that don't mean its at all accurate.

Just something to consider.
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#390922 - 04/21/08 09:38 PM Re: ENERGY Collection [Re: cxt]
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A BIT dodgy? LOL!

"Uh yeah, I was concentrating on breathing one day and um I got like all strong and stuff!!!"

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#390923 - 04/22/08 02:28 AM Re: ENERGY Collection [Re: puffadder]
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Puffy

What exactly have you said that hasn't already been said here before?

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There are too many people who are more concerned with knocking anything that's outslde their own limited imagination than actually trying to increase their own knowledge.




If you had been here more than a week you would know this isn't true. The fact of the matter is there have been several people come in posting things just like this who eventually start making claims of no touch knock outs, throwing chi balls and such. The discussion always ends up the same way. The simple fact is there is nothing we can do for this individual that will actually help him achieve any goal other than his possible desire to discuss the mythical abilities of an unproven phenomenon.

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It makes them feel better about themselves by putting down anything they don't understand. You should feel sorry for them as they are holding themselves back.




How do you know they don't understand this topic? Simply because they chose to respond sarcastically to yet another questionable post, which incidentally isn't the first from this particular individual. Ever think maybe their reaction is a direct reflection of their knowledge and experience and not a lack there of? Don't misinterpret people’s sarcasm with ignorance, which in itself is ignorance.

For you comments on oxygen intake, simply taking in more oxygen doesn't automatically increase oxygen transmission to the cells for increased performance. Proper breathing techniques and posture do help greatly but not to the extent kapow described and certainly not with the results he mentioned. Simply laying calm and controlling your breathing isn't going to take you from being unable to do a tucked planche to doing 12 reps then going into push ups. 2,3DPG is what causes the oxygen in your blood to release into your cells for increased strength and endurance. Simply taking in more oxygen doesn't increase 2,3DPG. It's actually the restriction of oxygen that does this. This is why training at higher altitudes can produce more endurance at lower altitudes. There are restrictive breathing techniques such as that of Dr. Andrew Weil's that if done over several weeks can trick your body into thinking it is at a higher altitude resulting in an increase of 2,3DPG and subsequently an increase of oxygen being released to the cells.

Visualization is very helpful for most any physical activity or sport but there is a huge difference in the benefits of visualization and them causing an involuntary physical reaction. It doesn't happen. The portion of the brain used for visualization and movement are two different things.

kapow,

You complain about people’s reaction to your posts and how few tried to actually help you but you completely ignored my offer to help you find instruction. So i'll ask again, what city do you live in. Tell us where you are and i'm sure someone here can point you in the direction of a good instructor.
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#390924 - 04/22/08 12:06 PM Re: ENERGY Collection [Re: laf7773]
kapow Offline
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Ok people.

Chi Balls and all that other Dragonball Z Stuff. Lets leave that for another thread. It has no place here.

The reason i didn't take a liking to sarcasm and silly responses is because I HAVE ASKED PEOPLE IN MY ORIGINAL POST TO AVOID SUCH POSTINGS AS THEY ARE NOT NECESSARY, AS I MAY UNDERSTAND THEIR SKEPTISM TOWARDS SUCH A POST!

Dont question whether what i posted is b****cks or not. I did NOT post to CONVINCE everyone this REALLY happened. Which is why, i KINDLY, asked for you, to FORGIVE ME, if the post came across as b****cks.
I KINDLY asked to not take the mick, and for posts to shed some light on what happened, NOT what cant happen. I, Me, created this thread with certain criteria entailed, yet this was ignored.

I know its a PUBLIC FORUM and as such i should expect PUBLIC POSTS, but IF I HAVE ALREADY KINDLY ASKED YOU NOT TO POST RUBBISH/SARCASTIC/NOT VERY FUNNY REPLIES..WHY SHOW IGNORANCE AND CONTINUE TO DO SO?

IF YOU WANT TO ARGUE OR POST CRAP GO MAKE YOURSELF A NEW THREAD SO YOU CAN ARGUE AND WHINGE AND MOAN AND PUT DOWN AS MUCH AS YOU LIKE.

Do you not THINK i know how my post comes across as 'mystical'? Do you not think i already foresaw people relating to this as yet another Dragonball Z wannabe post or the like? Which is WHY I SPECIFICALLY asked, in my original post, to not take the mick, be sarcastic and post only if you understand what i wrote. Some have understood, others have not.

I know people find it questionnable etc etc. I DO NOT HAVE THE TIME to make up stuff and then post it in forums. This happened, believe it or not, and i believe it will happen again.

Now tell me what it says about you for ignoring the content of my post.

Laf7773..I am not in a remote location as i mentioned it was about 40 miles to get any form of martial arts instruction. I know where i can get instruction and what type. In my original thread i was talking about a few years ago if that is what you are relating to. I now know what instruction is available to me and where to go to get it. Appreciate your help.
Also, you say to puffy whether peoples reaction to this post is a result of their direct knowledge and experience and not lack of. It doesn't matter how long he has been on here. He obviously made the comment because of the knowledge he has about this forum, about other members posts, and about this thread. Whether he has been on a day or a week. You can never have enough knowledge, you can never have enough experiences. There is always something to learn or experience no matter how adept someone thinks of themselves in any given criteria. You'll know why it is a lack of knowledge as you read the post.
Did you take the time to consider that my post may be a direct reflection of an experience i had? Or maybe puffy may have experienced something similar? What he mentions is something to consider, not a solid answer to the questions i asked. He understands that i could have gone through what i explained, without thinking of it as a 'questionnable' post, or something similar, which is why he dismissed the cynics. Others experience may not fit the bill to this type of experience, it doesn't mean it cant happen. You say my post of before were questionnable, they may have been questionnable but they werent dismissed. i havn't actually gone through my previous posts, thats history, but im sure they didn't spark argument. They surely weren't posted for the hell of it. If i have a question, no matter how silly it may sound, ill ask it because if you dont ask, youll never know.

CXT…you come across as a very confusing individual. There is a difference of opinion about a ‘viable reply’, but in the context of this thread you misunderstand. Why don’t you consider this…for arguments sake..i did have the experience mentioned, I do believe it is possible to repeat, therefore MY POST IS LOOKING FOR A REPLY WHICH CAN MAKE SENSE OF WHAT HAPPENED TO ME AT THE TIME. Which is what I am looking for. Which is why my 'viable reply' is something that can bring light to this, which is why i come across the way i came across to you in regards to "wow--your so brillant and make such interesting points--I agree with you!" and dismiss
the silly remarks and negative comments that are being made. I dont need people to tell me 'ITS NOT POSSIBLE' because it happened. Like i said im not here to cinvince, im here to look for answers. Do you really REALLY THINK that by some of you saying its not possible or it is dodgy etc etc, I am automatically going to say I may have been dreaming or hallucinating???

Of course not! I know what happened and it did happen which is why I posted. I have already made it clear countless times that if I was to put myself in your shoes, I know it may come across as a questionable post. ATTEMPT to consider the post by putting yourself in my shoes for once. This is to the rest of you too.
People claim martial arts teaches humility. You quite easily mention this as though you believe it. You also mention how an art can reflect an individual, you are a reflection of yourself, your conduct is a reflection of yourself, many things can reflect who you are. You don’t need an art to tell you this. Ask people what they think of you if you want to know how you come across, one of the many ways you can learn about yourself. Even patience can be tested. I write in CAPS LOCKS not to shout, but to drill in the points I was trying to make as I have made them so many times and yet they are being ignored time and time again.

Look, if everyone can read through this thread, then none of you should have the problem of reading about BREATHING, FULL YOGIC BREATH, YOGA, CHAKRAS, MEDITATION, TAI CHI, BODILY ENERGY, BRAIN WAVE ACTIVITY, NEUROSCIENCE and the ELECTRIC CURRENT which your brain can produce and your body can become sensitised to.

(yes, the brain does produce a current, if you read the early part of this thread, an idiot decided to make fun of such a claim without even thinking about whether this does happen, and how this electricity differs from that required by a toy train, for example)

READ about the above mentioned topics, in-depth. IF ANY OF YOU COME BACK WITHOUT QUESTIONING YOUR OWN CAPABILITIES, A DIFFERENCE OF WHAT YOU BELIEVED CAN AND CANNOT BE ACHIEVED, AND COME BACK WITHOUT EVEN A SINGLE QUESTION (in your head) THAT MAY SEEM 'dodgy' or 'questionnable' or 'mystical'....

Then...well so be it. I just hope you come back with more than what you knew.

Also, why not read up on people with extra-ordinary abilities.

The blind kid who uses 'echo location' to navigate through the world? not possible you say? look it up.
The guy who can stick objects to his body, even fridges, by using his mind, and how scientists to date dont have an explanation. not possible you say? how naive. look it up.
The fella who can fit in a tennis racket, and can twist his body 180 degrees. ooh not possible is it?

There are so many people that can do things that defy your own beliefs, but its been proven to be achieved. The internet isnt just for porn. Try to learn something new.

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#390925 - 04/22/08 12:24 PM Re: ENERGY Collection [Re: kapow]
puffadder Offline
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As a matter of fact Iaf visualisation, partucularly when relaxed does cause physical reactions. It is called an ideomotor response. It is used a lot in hypnosis and other relaxation training. Is it not possible that kapow's enhanced breathing induced a state of deeper relaxation than he was used to which created ideal conditions for ideomotor responses? Under even light hypnosis the human body is capable of greatly exceeding an individuals normal level of strength eg holding arms outstretched for half an hour without strain or previous training.
ps before you go on about hypno hocus pocus I am a qualified hypnotherapist having studied at the London College of Clinical Hypnosis.

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#390926 - 04/22/08 12:40 PM Re: ENERGY Collection [Re: kapow]
cxt Offline
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kapow

Ya, the thing is that nobody knows you--we only know what you post and IMO your just tail chasing here.

As far as "confusing" goes---I am just as confused at your stuff as you claim to be about mine.

I never said it was not possible--just questionable.....and your overreaction pretty much tells the story there.

I have zero interest in "putting myself in your shoes"--I have quite enough happening in my own shoes thank you very much.

Again, please do no lecture people on this forum as if we are ignorant about all sorts of aspects of the internal arts----at the very least please don't assume that just because we disagree with you that we are ignorant....the plian truth is that BECAUSE we have both information and personal expereince we disagree.

Its pretty much not a question that some people can do extraordinary things...its almost always a question of its really paranormal....and more importantly if its teachable.

Tell you what there is a nice man, James Randi, that is offering 1 MILLION DOLLARS for anyone that can perform paranormal feats in a lab---he has been offering the prize for a least 10 years now.
As of today nobody has ever claimed the money.....why don't you contact him...I assume that you can use a million bucks..yes?
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#390927 - 04/22/08 01:10 PM Re: ENERGY Collection [Re: cxt]
kapow Offline
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Hey you are entitled to your opinion tail chasing or whatever. I never laid claim that people on this forum are ignorant because they disagree, you constantly, constantly miss the point CXT. I wont explain, ill let you figure it out.

paranormal or not, teachable or not, alot of abilities have been proven with or without you having 'personal experience and information'
if you continue to not believe in people who can do such things, people who have made the guinness book of records because of their feats, for example, and not even being understanding enough to see my viewpoint from my perspective rather than your own because you have too much going on (and the fact that you keep missing the point) then thats enough said about you.

i am not saying i am paranormal or have paranormal capabilities. i dont lay claim to be able to do something not scientifically explainable. im sure the state i was in can be explained. you keep taking this to different levels one more absurd than the next. no i dont need a million dollars, im quite content with what i have going at the moment.

i think its getting to a point now where you dont have anything intelligent to say towards the original topic and the both of us just keep digging into each other.

say what you will regarding this post but unless it has something to do with the original post i cease to reply.

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#390928 - 04/22/08 06:27 PM Re: ENERGY Collection [Re: kapow]
cxt Offline
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kapow

If paranormal abilties have been "proven" then someone is 1 million dollars richer.

People make the Book of World Records for shoving the most smokes in their mouth or having the longest toenails.....big deal.

BTW just because its in the Book--don't make it paranormal.
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#390929 - 04/22/08 08:50 PM Re: ENERGY Collection [Re: cxt]
kapow Offline
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eerm yes...part of the point i was making!?

thanks for the input.....i guess

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#390930 - 04/22/08 08:58 PM Re: ENERGY Collection [Re: kapow]
BrianS Offline
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The human has physical limitations. No one yet has proven anything beyond physical limitations.

We have to obey the laws of nature like gravity and such.

There is nothing paranormal about martial arts.
"What one man can do, another can do."
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