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#390303 - 04/05/08 09:24 PM Enough with the pointless posts
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Hey everyone,

So I havent been on this site for too long (only about a year or so). However, throughout that time I have read a countless number of pointless and unhelpful posts. The kind of posts that are just to increase the usernames post count. Many of you put sarcasm in EVERY post, and it is getting really old. "Main difference? Muay Thai guys wear those kinky little shorts."-EXACTLY

When someone asks for help, they should get help. Now obviously some people ask dumb and obvious questions; however, there is no need to make that topic even more dense. How about you give real help? If you dont know how to answer the question, then DONT. You dont have to have an answer for every topic on every thread.

ONLY MATTJ CAN PULL THAT OFF LOL

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#390304 - 04/06/08 01:36 PM Re: Enough with the pointless posts [Re: WhiteDragon11]
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Whitedragon, as it is me you ar referring to then why not write to me directly? I don't bite (even if you are wearing the kinky shorts ). I think you might find the sarcasm of that post was because the same question was posted in both the KB forum and the TKD/KOREAN forum (although not by the same poster, I later noticed).

Now I don't actually answer every topic on every thread, nor do I use sarcasm in every post. but occasionally I like to add some bizarre humour and see who bites. Sometimes it is just to lighten the mood.

Also, if I may quote someone from the "What's wrong with government thread"

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Alright, if you want to sound "legit" then at least use proper grammar. We could have some man talking about the end of Christmas forever, and we might give him more belief then your getting. No one is going to believe someone that doesnt know how to use punctuation. That is your first mistake.




Why add to a dumb thread and why use such sarcasm... is it an MA topic or a grammar topic?


Edited by trevek (04/06/08 01:57 PM)

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#390305 - 04/06/08 02:03 PM Re: Enough with the pointless posts [Re: trevek]
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Well this wasnt to use directly, at all. I was just referring to your post, to show the sarcasm in posts made by various people. Nothing personal, it was just an example I was using.

Alright I was a little sarcastic but I was trying to show the extremes of using grammar. Your right, I shouldve put that in the grammar topic

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#390306 - 04/06/08 02:23 PM Re: Enough with the pointless posts [Re: WhiteDragon11]
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he deserved it anyway, it was a dumb post
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#390307 - 04/06/08 10:33 PM Re: Enough with the pointless posts [Re: trevek]
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No harm in having some fun with the threads. It is part of what gives this site it's "personality". I agree that it shouldn't get completely out of hand, but it rarely does.
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#390308 - 04/06/08 10:39 PM Re: Enough with the pointless posts [Re: WhiteDragon11]
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Hey everyone,

So I havent been on this site for too long (only about a year or so). However, throughout that time I have read a countless number of pointless and unhelpful posts. The kind of posts that are just to increase the usernames post count. Many of you put sarcasm in EVERY post, and it is getting really old.




yeah, I see what you mean:
http://www.fightingarts.com/ubbthreads/s...ue#Post15993604

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#390309 - 04/06/08 10:55 PM Re: Enough with the pointless posts [Re: Ed_Morris]
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Quote:

Quote:

Hey everyone,

So I havent been on this site for too long (only about a year or so). However, throughout that time I have read a countless number of pointless and unhelpful posts. The kind of posts that are just to increase the usernames post count. Many of you put sarcasm in EVERY post, and it is getting really old.




yeah, I see what you mean:
http://www.fightingarts.com/ubbthreads/s...ue#Post15993604





I may not be up on the young people's lingo, but I'm pretty sure that's what's called getting "PWN3D"
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#390310 - 04/06/08 11:02 PM Re: Enough with the pointless posts [Re: Ed_Morris]
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I disagree that the sarcasm rarely gets "completely out of hand". Of course, there is a large difference between what I subjectively perceive as "out of hand", Matt, vs how you may perceive the same thread. Therein, is the point. Face to face with someone you know, you can get away with a near lethal dose of sarcasm with no dire consequences. However, on a forum with new comers, new martial artists, people trying out different forum areas, sarcasm can be intimidating or at least rude. If it gives the site "personality", that may not be a good thing. I left a moderatorship because of the sarcasm and rudeness. I know of several other people who either posted a couple of times and left the forum, or who read for short while choosing not to post and then gave up on the site. This site is seen by some at least, as not very friendly.

Another thing that happens with sarcasm, is that as a moderator, I got private e-mails from people who preferred to get a private and respectful answer to an honest question rather than risk the sarcasm on the forum. No one should feel uncomfortable posting as long as the post is honest information seeking, honest sharing or an attempt to be helpful.
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#390311 - 04/06/08 11:09 PM Re: Enough with the pointless posts [Re: underdog]
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Rose,

I've been trying to find a way to state exactly that, but you've put it more eloquently than I could have.

Well said.

Let's remember to "wear the kid gloves" with newcomers, until they get their feet wet, shall we?
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#390312 - 04/06/08 11:17 PM Re: Enough with the pointless posts [Re: underdog]
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Rosanne -

With all due respect, most of the subjects you have encountered sarcasm on are very controversial to begin with. Subjects like say.....a 16 year old with very limited training, trying to create a new martial arts style, are going to be controversial to many (more experienced) martial artists here. Many of them would see such a post as not terribly serious, and treat it as such in response.

Subjects like ki/chi, dim mak and other unprovable/controversial material are automatically questionable to many minds here. Sarcasm/disbelief are inevitable, especially when there is a lack of solid proof, or just a poor argument on the part of one side.

Such is the nature of a public forum.

EDIT -

I do agree with Zombie, that the Beginner's Forum should be a no-sarcasm zone. But once their out in the wild, it's open season.


Edited by MattJ (04/06/08 11:20 PM)
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#390313 - 04/07/08 12:40 AM Re: Enough with the pointless posts [Re: MattJ]
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If "open season" is the law of the land, then by definition of forum rules, that becomes the site personality and part of the rules of engagement. Folks like me are not welcome and should leave. That is pretty much what I sense and posting here might just be a bad habit I shall have to address in turn with my other bad habits.

However, if this is NOT necessarily the site rule, then here are three ideas.

(1) Let it be understood in each section's rules, what the forbidden topics are. As long as you are not discussing something forbidden, then you should not be subject to abuse.

(2)Rules of engagement should also be posted on a stickie. Sarcasm is or is not allowed overtly stated. It is a choice. Matt likes it. I don't. If the rules clearly state that it is allowed, then I am aware and post at my own risk.

(3) No one should be posting in a domain where they have no belief and his sole purpose is to create discord. This is trolling regardless of who does it. This conduct is disrespectful to the people who are trying to work with the skills in that domain. If you do not train in or value a particular domain within fighting arts, then just simply don't post there. Let the people who train it, use it.
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#390314 - 04/07/08 12:47 AM Re: Enough with the pointless posts [Re: MattJ]
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By the way, the 16 year old wanting to create a new martial arts style is a good example of where sarcasm is not necessary. The easiest thing to do if the kid annoys you is to just not respond.
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#390315 - 04/07/08 03:30 AM Re: Enough with the pointless posts [Re: underdog]
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Regardless of any rules posted in any section people are still going to post what they want. People are still going to react emotionally to certain subjects. People are still going to get their feelings hurt. The forum rules are general and basic for a reason. If you start making too many rules and dictating the type of responses allowed the forum will be stifled and be abandoned by the majority. Everyone is sarcastic at some point and it's a matter of perspective that warrants it. What you feel warrants a sarcastic response might not be seen the same way by others. I do agree that out right personal attacks should not be tolerated but we shouldn’t have to sugar coat our feelings for the few. If you have been around the forum for a while you get a feel for the various personalities and are able to gauge what is simply sarcasm and what is a "cheap shot". For new members it's harder to gauge. Why should we tell people to temper their personalities and emotions for someone who doesn't have the foresight to use the search function or who comes to the forum on a soap box proclaiming they are the end all master and can shoot chi balls from their genitals? How many times should we answer the same question before expecting someone to read a previous post? I remember on several occasions having the same question asked by different people in three different posts on the same page. Yes my reaction to anyone who comes on a forum and states they can move people with their chi is always going to be sarcastic. Why? Because unless they come out from the start and provide proof they are lying.

What it comes down to is you can't tell people to change their personality for the sake of an anonymous person on a forum. Outright personal attacks are one thing but telling people they can only answer post sarcastically if it falls in someone else’s parameters isn't going to happen. You are more than welcome to come to the individual’s defense when it does but you can't tell everyone to put on a happy face and always be kind and courteous.
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#390316 - 04/07/08 07:36 AM Re: Enough with the pointless posts [Re: laf7773]
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There are some good points here, most significantly, that people are going to post what they want regardless of rules. I usually post on a subscription forum where, since people pay for their membership, trolling is generally not a problem. Oversight is also tighter for rules. I more than change "gears" to come here. I have to change the whole vehical and road map.

How about this- change the forum titles and categories to reflect actual use when that would be helpful. This is rare. In the past we have added sections like Philipino arts, and redefined areas like Internal Arts.

In the case of the power chi ball throwers, we redefined the internal arts section. If the chi ball throwers still feel their interest is applicable to the fighting arts, then they could have their own section. Why not?

The one that effects me personally, is the PP section. People with no interest in PP invade that section, disrupt our threads to demand "proof" and ridicule what we do. For the most part, I ignore their posts and read letting half a dozen posts go by until a pp practitioner posts with whom I can continue the discussion.

I think, Lane, it might be appropriate, even in a public free forum, to expect moderators to weed out this kind of disruption. A reasonable person can stay out of the areas they hold in little regard. Such a person is free to develop his art and select his coaches. However, he should remember that the arts are varied and personal. When one logs on to fightingarts and sees the many forum area titles, it should be clear that part of the mission here is to honor diversity.
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#390317 - 04/07/08 08:11 AM Re: Enough with the pointless posts [Re: underdog]
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I agree but unfortunately it's well within their right to go into sections of the forum that they don't agree with and question the validity of certain issues, not to reek havoc and cause issues but to uncover the truth and possibly enlighten people of the truth. Even if they are the ones being enlightened. Although i don't agree with some of the tactics by some members as long as they aren't breaking the forums basic rules they are within their right. Doesn't mean we can't take measures to trim or discourage the activity but it's going to happen. Which is why those who are more tempered in the way they post need to be more active, kind of a checks and balances.

Trust me i know full well the issues of the old "energy arts" section. I moderated it along with the pressure points, health and nutrition and sword arts sections. I saw more than my share of trolls and goons and spent months trying to get the admin to change the name of the energy arts section. Finally new admin came in after i bowed out and made the change. It's been a better since.
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#390318 - 04/07/08 09:03 AM Re: Enough with the pointless posts [Re: laf7773]
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OK then, I think this is pretty well summed up. Given the rules are what they are (permissive), rules are seldom broken. Annoying people are within their rights.

For myself, I've arrived at what is comfortable for me.

(1)I gave up my moderatorship. Personal attacks were defined differently by me than by administration. Being called a drug addict was the last straw.

(2)I ignore disruptive people. I skim through their posts and wait for the good ones.

(3)I leave threads that have been hijacked by people who won't be happy until PP is removed from the site and other veteran trolls (who are more annoying than the visitor trolls).

Now this is my personal coping list. To the original poster, the answer seems to be to just ignore the pointless posts. People have a right to post foolishness. There are a few prohibitions like multiple site postings, and advertising, but for the most part, anything goes. You can like it or not like it. I for one, do not like it, but I still post occaisionally and read the good areas because overall, fightingarts has enough good stuff on it to keep me logging on.

By way of affirmation, I learn the most from the historians on the site. I personally don't have the interest or patience to read history but occaisionally I have questions. I am grateful to the history buffs who kindly answer my questions. I also jump into other karate discussions and there is, generally speaking, a good community here.
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#390319 - 04/07/08 10:14 AM Re: Enough with the pointless posts [Re: underdog]
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If "open season" is the law of the land, then by definition of forum rules, that becomes the site personality and part of the rules of engagement. Folks like me are not welcome and should leave.




*sigh* Clearly I was being sarcastic/ironic. But, look at it this way. I lurked on the site for about a month before finially signing up and joining in the discussions. This gave me a chance to get a feel for how things work here, and understand the unique tone of this site. Note that this was long before most of the informational stickies existed. Those stickies were made to help new members easily access routinely asked questions. When they get ignored, the regular members can be a bit sharp in response, since the answers are readily avaliable. I don't think that asking someone to read the stickies before posting is outrageous.

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(1) Let it be understood in each section's rules, what the forbidden topics are. As long as you are not discussing something forbidden, then you should not be subject to abuse.




The stickies DO enumerate "forbidden" subjects. I *personally* tried not to limit discussions when I was admin, the main offense being personal attacks, not debates on historical/technical merit of any given style.

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(2)Rules of engagement should also be posted on a stickie. Sarcasm is or is not allowed overtly stated. It is a choice. Matt likes it. I don't. If the rules clearly state that it is allowed, then I am aware and post at my own risk.




Anyone lurking on the site will clearly see that sarcasm is tolerated here to a point. Personal attacks should not be allowed, and are not, as far as I know. Please understand that I am not *advocating* sarcasm as a primary response type. But I don't see expressly banning it, either.

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(3) No one should be posting in a domain where they have no belief and his sole purpose is to create discord. This is trolling regardless of who does it. This conduct is disrespectful to the people who are trying to work with the skills in that domain. If you do not train in or value a particular domain within fighting arts, then just simply don't post there. Let the people who train it, use it.




Well, I thought that the point of this site was to be exposed to other people's POV. Not everyone is going to agree about every subject. I hardly consider asking for proof or verification to be "trolling". Indeed, stonewalling on those issues would be considered "trolling" to me. Again, the nature of a public forum. Stifling debate because someone is uncomfortable about the subject matter goes against the very nature of a forum. Personal (or otherwise pointless) attacks should not be tolerated, but debate on subject matter is what this place is for.

As far as the 16 year old, I was not sarcastic in my responses to him, in the current thread or the original one (which I disagreed with that one being deleted). However, he did not seem to take seriously the responses he got, and indeed, reposted it with even more swagger. How seriously should that be taken at this point? He doesn't seem interested in our responses, so why go out of the way to be constructive? He doesn't care.
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#390320 - 04/07/08 12:26 PM Re: Enough with the pointless posts [Re: underdog]
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If you want to talk 'diversity', then we'll need to provide alot more sections...perhaps 1 forum section per school - would that be diverse enough? so then we can be all be safe from outside criticism via our protected isolation.

Not realistic logistically, since it would be too many rooms to moderate. plus, if one wants protected isolation, they can start a private forum and invite people in, as oppossed to those expecting to use public sections to free positive-only advertise their school without any risk of having their views-for-sale challenged by critical questioning....since they are having their 'diversity' respected.

see the slippery slope there? In the name of protecting diversity, we also manage to squash it.


But I have a possible solution/suggestion, for those who take offense to people questioning our delusions and suspecting our agendas.

Let's have a "Bunkology" section where people can reference all the de-mything they want. plus a "Style Agnostic" section.

that way, people of critical thought won't have to cut through so much crap to get to the heart of topics, which tends to have the effect of de-harmonizing the etherialy blissful threads.

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#390321 - 04/07/08 02:55 PM Re: Enough with the pointless posts [Re: Ed_Morris]
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OK it would get to be too much. I get it. So it is back to choice and personal standards of responsibility.
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#390322 - 04/07/08 03:30 PM Re: Enough with the pointless posts [Re: underdog]
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Matt does make a good point.

Some people do leave themselves with an open invite for abuse. The one about how all martial arts are rubbish and the government is trying to ban his instructor being a fine example.

What is bugging me at th moment is that as one of my posts was used as an example of the offending ilk I don't feel happy being associated with terms such as 'trolling' and 'abuse'.

I don't recall having ever abused anyone until they finally pushed me a little too far. Trolling? Putting a couple of inane, silly joke comments (which tend to be ignored anyway) is in the same league as "government boy" or some of the headcases we get on the TKD forum?
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#390323 - 04/07/08 07:09 PM Re: Enough with the pointless posts [Re: WhiteDragon11]
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*this pointless post post has been brought to you by BrianS*

*watches postcount soar*

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#390324 - 04/07/08 08:48 PM Re: Enough with the pointless posts [Re: BrianS]
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I am not trying to point fingers at anyone, using your post (trevek) was just an example, if you are talking about the same post as the first. I am just trying to give the noobs here a chance to get some good advice. A lot of the people on this forum ask dumb questions. However, a lot of them dont know better, so why make them feel retarded? And OK, sarcasm should be allowed in some cases. It is just using sarcasm when someone wants advice. I know when I joined, I was nervous I would be shot down and made fun of. Luckily I wasnt. But many new people are, and in some cases they arent tring to be a troll...

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#390325 - 04/07/08 11:18 PM Re: Enough with the pointless posts [Re: WhiteDragon11]
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so, when "monkeysofdoom" wasted 5 minutes of your life, and you felt the need to tell him so - that wasn't a pointless, sarcastic, unhelpful and talking down post?

whats the criteria? if you do it it's ok?

See whitedragon being a hypocrite, here

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#390326 - 04/07/08 11:21 PM Re: Enough with the pointless posts [Re: underdog]
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I think this would be a good rule.

1) Don't be so damn touchy!
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#390327 - 04/08/08 04:29 AM Re: Enough with the pointless posts [Re: BrianS]
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whitedragon, I don't mind my post being used as much as the way it seems to be being included as some kind of trolling in later posts.

My post was a bit late in the thread and after some much harder comments. It was also a repeat of a psot I'd put on a similar thread in the TKD forum which I mistakenly thought was by the same poster.

Yes, it was perhaps pointless, yes, trivial, yes childish... not actually that sarcastic in intent (th second time) but not what I would have thought deserved to be included in the following onslaught.

Maybe I'm just too sensitive in my old age.

BTW, I do agree about not savaging innocent newbies. There was a case on the TKD forum a few months ago where a Youtube vid of a 15 year old grading for her BB was put up (not by the YT poster) and dissected as a terrible example of standards for BB. I don't recall anyone slagging her, rather than the grading itself.The poor girl was not a member of the forum but got to hear of it and came on very upset.

A mistake had been made. The thread got removed.


Edited by trevek (04/08/08 04:53 AM)
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#390328 - 04/08/08 06:30 AM Re: Enough with the pointless posts [Re: Ed_Morris]
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Alright this is getting pretty old man. I dont know if you read but I said I am not pointing fingers at anyone. You on the other hand love to make things personal. Alright first off, wheres the sarcasm in that? I actually did waste time watching that, and I was disappointed. I was questioning his confidence and style of martial arts.

My criteria is give people a chance on this site. If they dont know how to ask good questions, then just leave the place alone. If you dont know how to answer a question/topic, then just dont.

No it wouldnt be ok. I am a little sarcastic, but I am not trying to be a jerk to everyone on this site. I answer questions that some people may feel are dumb. Maybe you should give this a try and stop singling people out.

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#390329 - 04/08/08 06:33 AM Re: Enough with the pointless posts [Re: WhiteDragon11]
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WD, just to confirm, I understand you weren't aiming anything at me in particular. Hopefully nobody else was, but later posts, not yours, seemed to lump it all under one banner. Maybe I'm just putting on the cap cos it seems to fit.


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#390330 - 04/08/08 06:33 PM Re: Enough with the pointless posts [Re: WhiteDragon11]
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WD,

Ed's post wasn;t personal, he was just making a point. Agood point at that. It's hard to tell other's not to do the things you do,lol.

If it was personal, you'd know it.
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#390331 - 04/09/08 01:00 PM Re: Enough with the pointless posts [Re: BrianS]
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This is probably pointless, but is this what martial artists are reduced to? If you cant take a moral hit from someone(on a FORUM!) that has literally no effect on your life unless YOU allow their actions to do so, then you should be training/therapy IMHO

Either way it ends up, people are arguing over what they want someone else to be allowed to say, and what other people can say back. IE: I want my cake and yours and yours and yours too!

Rules are subjective based on personal perspective.
People are subjective because they are the personal perspective.
This creates controlled diversity. This is generally considered a good thing.

Why make a pointless post about pointless posts when you make pointless posts yourself? Kind of like that guy who steals his cable and then calls the cable company when it stops working!

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#390332 - 04/09/08 04:56 PM Re: Enough with the pointless posts [Re: Seiken]
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Quote:

This is probably pointless, but is this what martial artists are reduced to?




Martial artists are not different then any other people. I dont see where people get the idea that just because your a martial artist, you are supposed to be more "civilized".

However, aside from that you make some good posts. But I dont think me and you are talking about the same thing. When I say "sarcasm", I am referring to comments that come out of nowhere and are meant just to "hurt" the poster.

This isnt really a "pointless" post/topic. I was trying to back up some of the new guys. And try and find one comment where I make a "pointless" post, which is not found in the "General Talk" section, since many posts there have nothing to do with advice more as opinions. One with no point.

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#390333 - 04/09/08 06:37 PM Re: Enough with the pointless posts [Re: WhiteDragon11]
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and your point is....?

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#390334 - 04/09/08 08:20 PM Re: Enough with the pointless posts [Re: Ed_Morris]
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I have already posted my reason. I am tired of explaining myself over and over again. Where is the debate in this topic? I am not pointing fingers, however, you seem to want to get "me back".

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#390335 - 04/09/08 09:27 PM Re: Enough with the pointless posts [Re: WhiteDragon11]
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WD, stop it, you're whining.

By your standards every post should have a point and/or be helpful.

I don't know about everyone else here,but I come here mostly for entertainment,make some new friends, have debates,etc...If my posts happen to be sarcastic or pointless in the process,big deal. I won't lose any sleep over it.

Ahhhhhh....when I was 15 I was perfect!!
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#390336 - 04/10/08 05:46 AM Re: Enough with the pointless posts [Re: BrianS]
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As you can all tell i am only here to force my own opinion on others, intentionally [censored] people off and degrade as many of the lower life forms as i can. I have only tolerated you all because you pail in comparison to my master, the one and only all powerful Professor Greatgrandmaster Doctor Soke doke Irving Soto.

Oh...wait, we DON'T want sarcastic posts. My bad.

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#390337 - 04/10/08 05:47 AM Re: Enough with the pointless posts [Re: BrianS]
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I think there is a misunderstanding about the difference between pointless and sarcastic. One can be both but not necessarily always.

Often the 'merely pointless' comments are not sarcastic (at least, speaking for myself) and can be(and are)skipped over. What annoys me more are the cases where people copy huge sections of previous posts which ar then requoted in the reply and means a thread page might only be 3 or 4 posts. That is much more annoying to me than some stupid inane comment which has no malice or sarcasm behind it.
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#390338 - 04/10/08 05:52 AM Re: Enough with the pointless posts [Re: trevek]
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That would be me. I do however have a purpose for it.
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#390339 - 04/10/08 06:23 AM Re: Enough with the pointless posts [Re: trevek]
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I think there is a misunderstanding about the difference between pointless and sarcastic. One can be both but not necessarily always.






Yes I think you can blame that on me. I didnt explain my opinion in the right way. Its not that sarcasm or pointless posts are "bad". Its just when you (no one in particular) use it, that seems to get me annoyed. I like going through the forums and getting a good chuckle from some of you. I think I just get annoyed when they ask a serious question and they get a sarcastic answer.

And yes I may do that myself, so theres no need to try and point fingers at me too.

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#390340 - 04/10/08 11:10 AM Re: Enough with the pointless posts [Re: WhiteDragon11]
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Finger pointing? Moi? Nay, nay and thrice times nay.

However... if the cap fits...
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#390341 - 04/10/08 04:36 PM Re: Enough with the pointless posts [Re: trevek]
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Sorry trevek, that part wasnt to you. I was just adding on to my thoughts.

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#390342 - 04/10/08 04:45 PM Re: Enough with the pointless posts [Re: WhiteDragon11]
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No problem, I thought it was a joke anyway.

I didn't have particular people in mind, it's not just laf who does it!

Maybe we should leave it alone as everyone seems to be getting touchy.
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#390343 - 04/10/08 09:47 PM Re: Enough with the pointless posts [Re: trevek]
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Yeah... alright I am locking this thread (in my mind)

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#390344 - 04/11/08 04:29 AM Re: Enough with the pointless posts [Re: trevek]
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Not at all touchy about it, hope i didn't come across that way. The only reason i respond to some posts that way is out of habit formed from dealing with spinsters and frauds on here (specifically in the energy arts section). It's easier to reference what i'm talking about if people, myself included, don't have to go through 8 pages to find the statement i'm referring to. It's all right there, their comment and my response. i know it takes up space but it's worked for me.
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#390345 - 04/11/08 12:18 PM Re: Enough with the pointless posts [Re: WhiteDragon11]
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Dude,

if you are getting annoyed at reading posts you might want to take a break from the forum. It shoudln't be that serious.

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#390346 - 04/11/08 03:14 PM Re: Enough with the pointless posts [Re: laf7773]
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not at all laf, just crossd wires and it looked like everyone else was getting as self-conscious as me.
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