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#388677 - 03/28/08 02:24 PM 10 out of 10 for style, but a flat zero for sense.
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A martial arts expert was accosted by three people. One of them pointed a gun at him, demanding his money.

He pushed the gun away, and delivered a beat-down.

Nice that he was able to defend himself, but I have to question his common sense.

Skill level notwithstanding, if someone points a gun at me, they're an instant winner. They get my money. I never carry enough cash worth the risk of getting ventilated over.
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#388678 - 03/28/08 02:30 PM Re: 10 out of 10 for style, but a flat zero for sense. [Re: Zombie Zero]
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Agreed in Theory, but we don't know the whole story either, he may have had reason to think he was in Mortal danger.

I wonder if he used one of those gun disarms the don't work
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#388679 - 03/28/08 02:41 PM Re: 10 out of 10 for style, but a flat zero for sense. [Re: Kimo2007]
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I will agree with Kimo until we find out more. If I thought someone was going to kill me even if I gave them the money, I would fight back, too.

I thought high-kicks didn't work, either.
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#388680 - 03/28/08 02:42 PM Re: 10 out of 10 for style, but a flat zero for sense. [Re: Kimo2007]
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Quote:

Agreed in Theory, but we don't know the whole story either, he may have had reason to think he was in Mortal danger.





True, but in my thinking, if I grab the one gun I can see, the other two that had until then been hidden come out and commence to splatterin'.

[I agree, if you're positive they're going to shoot, (and you can't run) then fight like a (wo)man possessed. ]
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#388681 - 03/28/08 03:25 PM Re: 10 out of 10 for style, but a flat zero for sense. [Re: Zombie Zero]
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True, but in my thinking, if I grab the one gun I can see, the other two that had until then been hidden come out and commence to splatterin'.




Maybe, but if the other 2 are cool enough to draw on you and shoot you down while you are beating down the first guy, then you probably aren't going to get the first gun either.

One thing I should mention is despite what I have said about disarms, if the guy with the gun knows what he is doing, you aren't going to disarm him (very very low odds). For a disarm to be effective the one with the gun needs to make a mistake.

Back to our 3 amigos, if they have a gun and suddenly the tables are turned, good chance they freeze. The lost upper hand can have paralyzing effects on people.
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#388682 - 03/28/08 03:37 PM Re: 10 out of 10 for style, but a flat zero for sense. [Re: Zombie Zero]
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I agree unless he thought that his life was threaten even after he gave up the money, then defend yourself.

I question his defense you grab the gun and kick someone in the face and DON'T disarm them, Once you get a hold the gun you never let go. Unless doing so place you in imenient danger, like a car coming at you. But running from a gun to across the street unless its around the quickest corner and another or behind a car and keep moving until you escape is dumb and asking to get shot in the back. Like it was mentioned we were not there so we don't know the entire story.

The thing that can't be questioned is that it worked this time. Zero common sense and Zero SD sense.
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#388683 - 03/29/08 02:20 AM Re: 10 out of 10 for style, but a flat zero for se [Re: Neko456]
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wow, I guess head kicks work wonders in street combat as long as you're kicking girls in the head. *takes notes* I'd have never thought that was the case.
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#388684 - 03/29/08 02:42 AM Re: 10 out of 10 for style, but a flat zero for se [Re: Novum]
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If the girl has a gun in her hand she becomes the weapon. If he gouge her eyes and broke her arm or legs as disarmed her thats tough sh%$. And shot the other two punks with gun he took. You order sh$%%, you eat it. Get a Job like the rest of us.

A woman can kill as easily as a Axe murder, with a weapon. Stop the macho crap, lets keep it real.
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#388685 - 03/29/08 03:01 AM Re: 10 out of 10 for style, but a flat zero for se [Re: Neko456]
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Not knocking the guy for kicking a girl in the head at all, just taking scientific note that they're more vulnerable to it. I'm not about being macho at all, I'd squish a midget if he had a gun on me.
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#388686 - 03/29/08 03:47 AM Re: 10 out of 10 for style, but a flat zero for se [Re: Novum]
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I agree totally but we fight the way we train, its proven. Midget or woman with a weapon I'm with you. You order sh$%,...
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