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#387717 - 04/07/08 09:11 AM Re: weights and tai chi [Re: ButterflyPalm]
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Registered: 03/08/05
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This reminds me of the time when I was below 10 when I was told to NOT urinate in the morning and to get the water out through sweat instead. LOL. Perhaps that accounts for my patience. You never knew as the reasons were never told and it might have nothing to do with MA training at all but to train self-control and discipline especially in children.




Additionally, it might be a way to force the body to retain some potentially profitable elements contained in the urine itself. Most Asian cultures not only do not regard urination as a way for the body to get rid of toxins and other unwanted elements, but even consider it as a potential risk to leak some good things (I assume that like most bodily fluids, it's thought to contain some of the individual's "vital energy"). Some particular types of urine were even considered as extremely valuable medecine in old China, and I believe consumption of one's own urine is still a medicinal practice in India and a few other Asian countries. I also heard that a yak's fermented urine was Tibet's most common medecine.


Just a thought... I might very well be completely off the mark here.
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#387718 - 04/07/08 09:19 AM Re: weights and tai chi [Re: Tashigae]
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I might very well be completely off the mark here.




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#387719 - 04/07/08 09:50 AM Re: weights and tai chi [Re: ButterflyPalm]
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I might very well be completely off the mark here.








OK... Guess I was indeed.
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#387720 - 04/07/08 11:44 AM Re: weights and tai chi [Re: Tashigae]
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Silly me! Your knowledge of western culture is clearly too vast and too precise for you to be Malaysian... So I guess you were still in a perfectly occidental environment when you were ten years old. And here I was looking for explanations in Asian traditional doctrines...
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#387721 - 04/07/08 04:16 PM Re: weights and tai chi [Re: Tashigae]
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The toxins within urine cannot be 'filtered' out of it and removed via perspiration. All you do is dehydrate, leaving a greater concentation of toxins in a smaller amount of solution, putting massive strain on your renal system.

Passing urine and faeces is natures way of removing toxins from the body of mammals. We may have big brains, but all the crazy ideas we come up with do not negate or bypass our basic animal functions.

Renal failure can be fatal, or lead to a lifetime of dialasis. Go to the toilet when you have to go.
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#387722 - 04/08/08 01:54 AM Re: weights and tai chi [Re: Tashigae]
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I might very well be completely off the mark here.








OK... Guess I was indeed.





LOL, ....urinate? "...off the mark...?"
I agree it was an off-colored joke.

BTW, I have been 100% Malaysian since before or after the age of 10.
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#387723 - 04/08/08 05:40 AM Re: weights and tai chi [Re: ButterflyPalm]
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LOL, ....urinate? "...off the mark...?"
I agree it was an off-colored joke.



Got the joke at last. Sorry I had to make you explain it, everyone knows this will ruin even the funniest ones; but I'm clearly a lot slower to understand them when using English.

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BTW, I have been 100% Malaysian since before or after the age of 10.



Damn! Wrong again! Oh well, at least I contributed to uncover one more little piece of information on this forum's favourite enigma...
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#387724 - 04/08/08 03:09 PM Re: weights and tai chi [Re: Cord]
Tashigae Offline
Mister Bendy

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The toxins within urine cannot be 'filtered' out of it and removed via perspiration. All you do is dehydrate, leaving a greater concentation of toxins in a smaller amount of solution, putting massive strain on your renal system.

Passing urine and faeces is natures way of removing toxins from the body of mammals. We may have big brains, but all the crazy ideas we come up with do not negate or bypass our basic animal functions.

Renal failure can be fatal, or lead to a lifetime of dialasis. Go to the toilet when you have to go.



Indeed, but can you really induce renal failure merely by concentrating your toxins too much through intense workout? I really doubt it. As for "holding on" when your body suggests you go... In that case, the concerned toxins are already in the bladder, and therefore should no longer be the kidneys' buisness, no matter how much you concentrate them from there. Unless of course you decide too consume your own urine afterwards, which I assume would indeed put quite a bit of strain on your kidneys. And yet, I'm pretty sure urine (human or animal) was used by a number of traditional Asian medecines as a remedy (for what, I'm not sure). Chinese friends have confirmed that a virgin man's urine was considered a highly valuable medecine in old China. No idea about the theory behind that practice though.

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BTW, I have been 100% Malaysian since before or after the age of 10.



In that case, I feel the need to explain a bit further the reasons why I mistook you for a Westerner. When I said "your knowledge of Western culture is clearly too vast and too precise for you to be Malaysian", I by no means intended to suggest that Malaysians are an ignorant lot. It's just that through my experience with my rather numerous Asian friends, I've come to notice that the areas covered by the knowledge of a learned European and that of a learned Asian differ greatly. Many cultural points that are basic knowledge in China are ignored even by the most erudite Westerners, and vice-versa.
As far as I'm concerned, the degree of Western erudition you have displayed on FA.com over the years is mighty uncanny for an Asian (even one versed in Western culture) , hence my mistake. Please don't take any offense...
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#387725 - 04/09/08 03:23 AM Re: weights and tai chi [Re: Tashigae]
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Please don't take any offense...




Being the cautious person that I am and just to be sure I was being complimented by a Frenchman who claims to sometimes think in Chinese and apparently writes often in English, I looked up "erudition" and found, to my continuing education in the English language, that it meant "profound scholarly knowledge" which I find is just a touch over the top
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#387726 - 04/11/08 05:37 PM Re: weights and tai chi [Re: ButterflyPalm]
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Funnily enough I was once taught a particular grammar point in English by my Chinese-Malaysian flatmate who was extrmly frustrated that the Brits in the house couldn't speak proper English!
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