Nenad? is that the ndj bloke someone mentioned?

Yes. sorry...thought you'd read the previous thread mentioned.

From a Shotokan perspective, to me that Tensho partnered exercise looks very much like the penultimate movement in Gojushiho Sho, two ox jaw strikes in cat stance just repeated back and forth, double handed receiving and striking-what do you think?

B.

But the idea of is not about striking or stance its blending and flowing from deflection to strike/offense, or reverse.

It is said that Kusanku or Gojushiho Sho are the two most advanced forms in your system that might be telling you something.

Telling us what?

That the principles are valid and should be apart of advance training everything is not hard nor is it soft, it flows.

If this has to explained then we are not there yet, so "why" is still a mute point to you. What it looks like may have nothing to do with your training at this point in your life.

Do you see any use for flow training or Chi-Sau training?

Shonuff - Zack, more like deadly language skills.

Right back at ya, but what else can we do on a forum.

I agree with your analyzation of the difference in Goju-ryu and Shorin-ryu principles, purpose and perferred distance. Where we differ is that it doesn't have to be Goju or Shorin for me to see good in it. I don't judge principles by what I practice or its not in my base. I empty my cup and judge the outcome after working and training with it the judge by its own merits. Can I use it? I delight and greet new information and techniques. Like you I am proud of my base and feel its has served me well in and out of the dojo. But I know its not the only way.

I see nothing wrong with your ideas and believe you have studied the matter from the Karate side of fence well but I get the impression that if its not link into what you have been taught it has no purpose to you. No system has all the the answers and odd as it maybe there other methods that bring simple effective results.

Really shotokan kumite range is not real fight range it is inital contact range as you stated in and out. U can't control or maintain that range all the time. U do know that right? How many systems outside of Karate have you worked with or sparred outside of the tournaments?

Neko,

whose posts do you read????

Can you point out what I've said that gives you the impressions you seem to have of me?

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Where we differ is that it doesn't have to be Goju or Shorin for me to see good in it.

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I don't judge principles by what I practice or its not in my base.

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Like you I am proud of my base and feel its has served me well in and out of the dojo. But I know its not the only way.

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but I get the impression that if its not link into what you have been taught it has no purpose to you.

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Where do you get this stuff??? Seriously please quote me the things I've written which give you these impressions as I am lost as to how you manage this.

I also cannot figure out why you keep wanting to make personal a general discussion about technique and training methods?
Especially since you haven't actually added any new info or contradicted anything I've said in the discussion so far?

At last count I have experience of around 12-14 different systems, both training and fighting in non tournament conditions. I could list them but I don't see the relevance. I'm sure you have experienced many many more, but I'm more concerned with what new information and advice you bring to the discussion as opposed to where you learned it.