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#386278 - 03/12/08 08:58 AM UK Sword ban starts to impact
seibukanUK Offline
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Registered: 11/30/07
Posts: 43
The imminent UK sword ban seems to be starting to take effect.
Comments below are from a well known UK supplier.
HMG are not very forth coming with information, even at this late stage! I hope I don't need a new sword any time soon.

Due to the imminent UK sword ban, to take effect at the start of April 08, we are currently experiencing a difficult period with the supply of stock swords.

Exact details have yet to be released with regards to the details of the ban and of possible exemptions. As a result we are not able to risk importing new swords until the exact details have been released and clarified.

Sorry for this inconvenience. EU sales for custom Iaito will continue and we will have new stock available for EU clients in near future which will be held and dispatched from our European base of operations. If swords are allowed for UK customers these will be made immediately available.
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#386279 - 03/12/08 10:27 AM Re: UK Sword ban starts to impact [Re: seibukanUK]
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As a Karateka, I understand the concept of the sword arts in the ways of Tai Sabaki etc.

I was looking at taking up Iaido once I reach Sandan in my current style (A few years to go yet). What steps have been put in place for practitioners to purchase and hold them.

The thing is its the 'Hoodies' without any training which have caused the Ban. One thing that gets me is that the most common weapon used in assaults is a Kitchen Knife, but they're not banning those.

I hope I'll be able to purchase my Battle Ready Katana when I am ready to learn Iaido.

Osu

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#386280 - 03/12/08 11:12 AM Re: UK Sword ban starts to impact [Re: Dobbersky]
seibukanUK Offline
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Nothing in place yet. No need for you to worry about it just yet ;-) BTW, maybe better to start with a bokken not shinken.
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#386281 - 03/14/08 11:14 AM Re: UK Sword ban starts to impact [Re: seibukanUK]
animematt Offline
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Registered: 02/10/08
Posts: 41
Ah the UK. Banning everything cause they think it will make their "country" safe. How silly.

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#386282 - 03/14/08 12:52 PM Re: UK Sword ban starts to impact [Re: animematt]
iaibear Offline
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Registered: 08/24/05
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Loc: upstate New York
Many starry-eyed idealists forget that when honest people are deprived of their weapons in the name of safety, only criminals will be armed.

Corollary: Where is a policeman when you need him?

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#386283 - 03/15/08 06:39 PM Re: UK Sword ban starts to impact [Re: seibukanUK]
fileboy2002 Offline
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Registered: 11/13/05
Posts: 999
Loc: Chicago, IL
Here is a good tip: buy stock in companies that make bricks, barstools, and cricket bats.

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#386284 - 03/17/08 03:33 PM Re: UK Sword ban starts to impact [Re: fileboy2002]
Ed_Morris Offline
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Registered: 11/04/05
Posts: 6772
thought this story today might be relavent to the thread:

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/article3526955.ece

Quote:


New law on knives won't halt culture, says MP

Monday, March 17, 2008

Government plans to double jail sentences for being in possession of a knife may still not be enough to deter people from carrying the lethal weapons, it was warned today.

And with concern over the level of knife-related violence on the streets of Ulster remaining high, SDLP MP Eddie McGrady accused the Government of not moving quickly enough to introduce tough new laws to tackle the issue.

Policing and Justice Minister Paul Goggins has said he will shortly lay proposals before Parliament that will see the increase in penalties for the carrying, manufacturing and selling of knives in Northern Ireland to a maximum of four years in jail and an increase in the age at which knives can be purchased from 16 to 18.

However, Mr McGrady said it has been almost three years since the Government announced its commitment to devise a comprehensive strategy to deal with this issue and claimed that this is leaving Northern Ireland lagging behind the rest of the UK in relation to sentences for knife carrying offenders.

"Knife crimes are an alarming trend within our society. The latest reported figures for 2005-06 would indicate that approximately 1,200 knife related crimes were reported to police compared with 984 incidents the previous year," said Mr McGrady.

He added: "The culture of carrying knifes has become acceptable to many of our young people. Some see a knife as a status symbol or something that can protect them. However, the number of knife attacks and serious and fatal wounding tell us that knives are not a tool of protection but a deadly weapon."

Mr McGrady also warned that the proposed four year penalty is not enough of a deterrent.

He said: "While I welcome the progress being made by the Northern Ireland Office in this area, it is debatable if four years imprisonment is enough deterrent to those who would carry a knife with malicious intent, and how in fact will this law be policed and offenders detected.

"The community have a role to play in the detection of this crime and it is my hope that the decision by the NIO to introduce a four years prison term will encourage the community to co-operate with the police in the knowledge that this is a serious offence with serious consequences."

As part of the new proposals the Government is also drawing up a new offensive weapons list that will include Samurai swords. In addition, the authorities are examining how to develop a knife licensing scheme to regulate the sale of knives.

The new legislative proposals to tackle knife crime will increase jail sentences to 12 months for lesser convictions that can be dealt with by a magistrate. However, the sentence will rise to four years on indictment for having a knife or other weapon in public or on school premises.

Possession of an offensive weapon, including flick and gravity knives, push daggers, sword sticks, death stars, butterfly knives and banned martial arts implements are also covered by the proposals.




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#386285 - 03/18/08 09:05 AM Re: UK Sword ban starts to impact [Re: Ed_Morris]
iaibear Offline
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Registered: 08/24/05
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Loc: upstate New York
We can only hope that one of these days the government will accept the idea that it is not the weapon but the user that should be punished or banned.

In the meantime let us hope meat served by licensed knife users will be tender enough to be cut with a spoon.

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#386286 - 06/20/08 04:41 PM Re: UK Sword ban starts to impact [Re: iaibear]
bcihak Offline
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Registered: 08/12/07
Posts: 298
Loc: Illinois
The people in the U.K. need to take their country back from the liberals who control it. First the guns, then the swords and still they are not finished. Thought crimes come next. If you like freedom then you need to fight for it. Kick out the nut cases who want to control every aspect of peoples lives. Guns and swords are just the beginning, wait till crime continues to surge because innocent people cannot defend themselves. That is when the control freaks will really go nuts. Lets keep that silliness out of the states.
Thanks (I just finished the longer posting and it is obvious that the nuts are in charge. they banned guns and the criminals turned to knives. Come on. Dump these political fools or you won't be able to own a pen or pencil without a government permit.)


Edited by bcihak (06/20/08 04:46 PM)

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#386287 - 06/20/08 08:31 PM Re: UK Sword ban starts to impact [Re: bcihak]
fatguy Offline
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Registered: 12/19/05
Posts: 146
maybe I dont know the UK govt. well enough but I dont think being liberal cause a ban on guns... I would assume less control from the govt would be a liberal move.. Are you referring to the house of Commons?


Politics aside have you guys in the UK been hit hard with this in terms of sword ownership/carrying? Has there been any improvement?
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