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#383265 - 02/15/08 10:29 PM Re: Using TKD in a SD situation [Re: BrianS]
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As others said, avoid if you can. If not, I would apply whatever of the 3,200+ fundamental movements that I have learned to the situation at hand. Protect, ounter hard & try to establish the upper hand as best you can.

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#383266 - 02/16/08 12:08 AM Re: Using TKD in a SD situation [Re: ITFunity]
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in a situation where my safety was threatened and avoidance was not an option, i would have no reservations with using any nasty technique. kick to the groin...check. poke in the eyes...check. knees/elbows to the face...check. whatever gets the job done. now i wouldn't stand there and beat the guy continuously, just disable and get out of there.
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#383267 - 02/16/08 12:25 AM Re: Using TKD in a SD situation [Re: ITFunity]
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Quote:

As others said, avoid if you can. If not, I would apply whatever of the 3,200+ fundamental movements that I have learned to the situation at hand. Protect, ounter hard & try to establish the upper hand as best you can.




Your 3200 figure brings to mind a question. Do you think it's necessarily better to have so many options to draw from when your in a high pressure situation like SD? The reason why I ask is that I've seen hapkido instructors who also claims to teach "thousands" of techniques useful for SD. Many of these techniques are probably useful, but I am forced to wonder how many them you'll really need.

In most combative sports, even in disciplines that have a wide variety of techniques, you'll usually see a handful of basics that are used over an over again. Most MMA matches display a couple of takedowns and 3-4 main submissions (armbar, triangle choke, guillotine, RNC). Olympic TKD fighter rely mostly on single/double roundhouses, counter roundhouse, cut kick, and back kick. Boxers have jab, cross, hook, and uppercut. Now I know SD and combative sports are apples and oranges, but I think principle of being proficient in a few basic moves applies to SD as well.

What do you think?

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#383268 - 02/16/08 07:27 AM Re: Using TKD in a SD situation [Re: trevek]
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Having trained long and hard to develop my TKD leg muscles, I'd use them to the best effect... run!




Right on man! Best response IMHO!!!

On another note, the question Brian asked is a pretty good one. I don't want to add too much to it, but I read a lot about using certain techniques here etc... If it were me I would assess the situation first, particularly my enviornment. For instance:

You are in a crowded place (e.g. a bar) You don't have a lot of room to manauvere. For me, I would say kicks of pretty much any sort were out the window...

I don't want to get into specific scenarios here, that is not what the thread is about (I think!)

I do believe though that rather than focusing purely on techniques I would also focus on where I was, what was around me etc... If you just think of yourself in a fight and what you alone will do, that could be the road to ruin. That is only my opinion.
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#383269 - 02/16/08 11:02 AM Re: Using TKD in a SD situation [Re: badachagi]
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I think you are right & have a good point. I feel that is a necessary approach to have when it comes to real SD. Our point is not only should you have a strong core techniques that you own, so to speak, but to also have others that you can draw from to meet specific situations. For example, most learn a front snap kick early on in their training. It is a useful & can be a powerful kick, that is fairly easy to learn & own. However, less are taught front snap kick with the knee as the tool. So if in a situation where they feel they are too close for a front snap kick, using the ball of the foot, they can quickly adapt to using the knee as the attacking tool.

This concept is important when considering angle & distance of attacks/defense, as well as knowing approriate tool for the correct vital spot.

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#383270 - 02/16/08 03:18 PM Re: Using TKD in a SD situation [Re: ITFunity]
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An interesting question regarding this thread; has anyone ever used their TKD training against someone who was passive and aggressive?

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#383271 - 02/16/08 04:51 PM Re: Using TKD in a SD situation [Re: EvenRats]
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Not sure I understand what you mean

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#383272 - 02/16/08 05:07 PM Re: Using TKD in a SD situation [Re: ITFunity]
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do you meen an abusive person who wasn't being violent?
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#383273 - 02/16/08 07:18 PM Re: Using TKD in a SD situation [Re: TKD-Skippi]
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Oops, I mean just aggressive. Sorry, as I explained in the other thread I lacked oxygen in my brain.

Have you ever used TKD in your own defense?

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#383274 - 02/16/08 07:38 PM Re: Using TKD in a SD situation [Re: EvenRats]
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How about a swift kick to the aggressor's lower side of the leg, maybe to the side of the knee or even the femur?

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