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#382493 - 02/09/08 10:04 PM scuffed floor and students
alphawolf Offline
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Ah well, as some of you know already, I have hyperhidrosis on my hands/feet. Anyway, after a few months now of being in a new dojo my current sensei( and owner ) is giving me crap about his floor being marked up by my shoes. He is giving me the option of leaving or not using the shoes, and the latter really isn't very realistic in my situation. If you were him, would you give up a student for your floor?
Would you give up a student for a clean floor?
Only one choice allowed


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#382494 - 02/09/08 10:54 PM Re: scuffed floor and students [Re: alphawolf]
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He is giving me the option of leaving or not using the shoes, and the latter really isn't very realistic in my situation.




The choice is yours. That is the reality.

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#382495 - 02/09/08 11:03 PM Re: scuffed floor and students [Re: oldman]
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that IS the reality, yes, but the problem is that this is the second time I have had to leave a place because of an owner's nitpicking BS on something I have no control over. I need to understand the mindset here; If someone opens up a dojo, why in the hell would they assume their floor would not get marked up?
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#382496 - 02/09/08 11:21 PM Re: scuffed floor and students [Re: alphawolf]
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If you have decided to leave already why put up a poll. Whats is the point. Do you want people to say how mean the owner is. In each school the owners gave you the opportunity to continue your training. You (it appears) are ready to leave not because they have a problem with your situation but because you do.

You say you have no control over your problem. The owner has not asked you to control your sweating. He has asked you to not damage his mats. That, you have control over.

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#382497 - 02/10/08 12:27 AM Re: scuffed floor and students [Re: alphawolf]
Ed_Morris Offline
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wrestling shoes if you are on a mat.

non-slip socks if you are on a wood floor.


or if you have some kind of special shoes you are prescribed, then slip over a pair of those stretchy underarmour socks.


oldman's right - the only problem that you have is not the floor, not the sweating, not the 'rules'...it's getting over assuming a victim's role and start to get innovative to solve the minor obsticle that will prevent your training which you enjoy more than complaining about obsticles.

...or not.

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#382498 - 02/10/08 01:16 AM Re: scuffed floor and students [Re: Ed_Morris]
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I couldn't care less what people think about his personality. I put the poll up to understand why he is being a jackass. If a majority agrees with him, then maybe he's right; if not, hes wrong. Also, socks don't work because the sweat will go through no matter what--i've tried it.On shoes, it doesn't. Bare-foot training is nigh impossible. It isn't a matter of just getting over it mentally, its a physical problem that requires shoes.
I also haven't made my mind up about leaving yet because I can't afford to. The closest place is way too far when work and time is considered. Might be easier to just sit at home and vegetate
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#382499 - 02/10/08 01:43 AM Re: scuffed floor and students [Re: alphawolf]
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It's his floor does he not have the right to protect it. It is you who has to find a solution to this not the instructor , you are the one with the condition not him. and you have to be the one to adjust. why is he a jackass, sounds like your a whinger to me..

Bottom line it's his floor and he has every right to demand no shoes on it. if you are unable to meet those terms then Bye Bye. and please don't go hinting at discrimination, discrimination doesn't hold if damage is a result of inclusion.

There is another option that you haven't thought of.......
why don't you offer to have the floor professionally polished every 6 months or so. he may not except this because in the mean time you are still scuffing his floors and that reflects on the dojo.

take on board what has already been said and stop acting like a whinging cry baby, get over it and find a solution.

Do you spa with shoes on isn't this a bit unfair and dangerous to your partner. do you use training equipment isn't it a bit unfair that your also marking up the equipment.

before you start calling me a jackass I Teach RBSD with the shoes on, because thats most likely to be what your wearing in a self defence situation. but even I recognise the right for an instructor to demand a no shoe policy.

vent over
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#382500 - 02/10/08 02:00 AM Re: scuffed floor and students [Re: alphawolf]
Ed_Morris Offline
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sometimes I have to wonder if people actually read and take words in for processing.

Quote:

I couldn't care less what people think about his personality. I put the poll up to understand why he is being a jackass. If a majority agrees with him, then maybe he's right; if not, hes wrong.



could you point out the part of my post where I even remotely mention anything related to this part of your response? I get your message though: "No advice wanted."

got it.


Quote:


Also, socks don't work because the sweat will go through no matter what--i've tried it.On shoes, it doesn't. Bare-foot training is nigh impossible. It isn't a matter of just getting over it mentally, its a physical problem that requires shoes.



no. it IS a falure of YOU coming up with a solution. YOU are responsibile for your training. you are not a customer that needs to be accomidated, you are a student responsible for your own problems. If a student had a bowel irregularity problem, would the teacher be expected to mop up after him or would it be assumed the student would figure out on his own a diaper solution?


Quote:


I also haven't made my mind up about leaving yet because I can't afford to. The closest place is way too far when work and time is considered.


You seem to be in sabatage mode. If you are at a place just because it's a last resort, have no quams about bad mouthing your instructor in public, then it would seem you have already pretty much made up your mind....or your fate, whichever materializes first.

Quote:

Might be easier to just sit at home and vegetate



ahhh, it's the easy solution you are looking for, I see. in that case yes, that is your best option. get your foot fan out and enjoy the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4PN7Xbexq4

lol...good luck and hope the attitude works out for you, kido.

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#382501 - 02/10/08 02:42 AM Re: scuffed floor and students [Re: alphawolf]
hedkikr Offline
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Registered: 02/28/05
Posts: 2827
Loc: Southern California, USA
I sympathize w/ your predicament but I'm not on your side. Check-out your poll - you're wrong by your own words.

My sympathy for your situation ended the second your sense of entitlement became clear. Giving you "crap" about his floor is his prerogative because it's his business. Although our society tries to accommodate & include as many people as possible, we can't accommodate everyone.

Maybe YOU need to make the accommodations now instead of expecting the world to cater to you. Why don't you just accept things as they are & try Arnis, JKD, TKD, Wrestling, Boxing, Savate, Krav Maga, Fencing or any number of hybridized MA that allow it's practitioners to wear SHOES.

And if you decide to get all "ACLU" on your instructor, you'll show what you're really made of.

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#382502 - 02/10/08 08:45 AM Re: scuffed floor and students [Re: alphawolf]
MattJ Offline
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Alpha -

Have you tried different kinds of shoes? What about something like Tabi, etc?
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