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#381581 - 02/05/08 01:10 PM Re: UFC 81 (possible Spoilers) [Re: MattJ]
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Brilliant post, Cord. Spot on again!





It's spelled KIMO

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Google the Royce Gracie/Kimo Leopoldo match from the early, far less rule-restrictive




Couldn't find the video, at least not yet but I would like too, for some reason I don't recall seeing Kimo, didn't realize he was the one that knocked out Gracie of UFC III.
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#381582 - 02/05/08 01:26 PM Re: UFC 81 (possible Spoilers) [Re: Kimo2007]
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It's spelled KIMO






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Couldn't find the video, at least not yet but I would like too, for some reason I don't recall seeing Kimo, didn't realize he was the one that knocked out Gracie of UFC III.




Gracie didn't get KO'd, if that's what you mean. Although after defeating Kimo, Royce could not continue for the championship match against Ken Shamrock.

Royce was never KO'd in the UFC as far as I know.
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#381583 - 02/05/08 01:42 PM Re: UFC 81 (possible Spoilers) [Re: MattJ]
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Gracie didn't get KO'd, if that's what you mean.




I know he didn't get KO'd it was the format that required multiple fights in a night and he had broken a rib? He won the fight with a broken rib.

I believe he was undefeated with 1 tie (shamrock) until he lost to Hughes by TKO...I think.
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#381584 - 02/05/08 01:54 PM Re: UFC 81 (possible Spoilers) [Re: shills11]
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sylvia is very humbling and at times very funny look out for the whole "i htae Jiu Jitsu" speech





Love the I hate Jiu Jitsu speech, I feel his pain. I don't hate it, I just hate that I spent all those years training Karate and only minimal ground stuff, ever have one of those, uh oh I ain't quite the bad ass I thought I was moments...they suck, then you get on the mat and so OK, show me again how you wooped my ass so fast.

But I guess I am not the only one that has happend too.
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#381585 - 02/05/08 02:10 PM Re: UFC 81 (possible Spoilers) [Re: Kimo2007]
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"But I guess I am not the only one that has happend too."

Nope! happened to me crossing over from Muay Thai.

I've been at it about 6 months and still get my a*% tapped out all over the place. But I am getting better. Perhaps thats why respect the way Mir won.
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#381586 - 02/05/08 03:23 PM Re: UFC 81 (possible Spoilers) [Re: Kimo2007]
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PS Why do you guys always come at me in gangs, feels like someone is about to steal my lunch money.




Kimo, you should ask yourself that as if that is what you are perceiving then perhaps it is the because of you. I have found you very adversarial when posting, like you are looking for a discussion. You always like to disagree with people and that is fine, you are entitled to your opinions, but also realize others are as well. I'm sure you are right many times but then again you are not but you have the "I'll argue till my death even if I'm wrong" type of attitude.

Don't get me wrong, you make things interesting and though I'd like to cuff you upside the head from time to time I enjoy the discussions; no matter how irritated I get.
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#381587 - 02/05/08 04:07 PM Re: UFC 81 (possible Spoilers) [Re: Dereck]
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I have found you very adversarial when posting




Actually that part of my post was more of a joke then anything but since a few folks have addressed it I'll respond.

I have to admit that at times I have overplayed my hand a bit, usually on purpose. This site has a personality and I know if I take a certain side I will get a response and a discussion will ensue.

That said for the most part, I back my postions still, there are a couple in hind sight I wish I hadn't pushed or even started, but then sometimes you shoot and score, sometimes you just shoot.

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I'll argue till my death even if I'm wrong" type of attitude.





I think I am passionate about what I believe and know, the problem is I am an oral debater, typing is not the best medium for me to make myself understood. A big part of the problem I have is often getting responses that in my mind seem like the person is not understanding what I am trying to convey.

If you all could just assimalte to my way of thinking, this would all be a lot easier, but then what fun would that be.

-Kimo
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#381588 - 02/05/08 04:28 PM Re: UFC 81 (possible Spoilers) [Re: Kimo2007]
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Exactly. I like you analogy of some times you shoot and score and sometimes you just shoot. Being a Canadian and hockey fan I can respect that especially since Alberta hometown hero and NHL great Wayne Gretzky said something similar such as "if you never shoot you will never score"; that touches so many things in life then just hockey. I look forward to future debates.
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#381589 - 02/05/08 07:15 PM Re: UFC 81 (Definate Spoilers) [Re: Dereck]
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Your display of mutual respect for your respective internet forum debating skills warms my heart and brings a tear to my eye

although had this been a real debate without forum rules and moderators deducting points and issuing verbal tirades on virtual punches to the back of the head, i think the person with the bigger more whitty and offensive vocabulary would win a "real" debate any day.
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#381590 - 02/06/08 12:11 PM Re: UFC 81 (possible Spoilers) [Re: Kimo2007]
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The Royce Gracie vs. Kimo fight was a pure example of heart vs. sure power. David vs. Golitha at close range withou the sling shot. Kimo was/is an awesome athletic specimen he was talented and skilled on the ground and standing.

Kimo was probably better skilled then Lesnar overall. Royce didn't stand a chance standup in my opinion. He barley survive fighting his fight, If Kimo wasn't trying to be so cute with that long ponytail. But If smith Royce outlasted Kimo and submitted him after a war of tactics.

Under the present rule of Standing the fighters back up if uneffective or holding for a opening. Royce might not have won, he was outweighted by more then 50lbs and Kimo was stronger. A brillant display of heart and tough training, having been beaten by his brothers and uncles over strength and near equal skills.

I can't take anything from Mir, Lesnar was a monster. Great show of skill.
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