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#381312 - 02/08/08 10:37 AM Re: kicking height. [Re: clmibb]
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yeah thats great!!

i am 5' 9" and i cant reach my own head height yet.
sooo good job!!
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#381313 - 02/08/08 06:32 PM Re: kicking height. [Re: Jer_sm]
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I'm 6'2" and can't really do a good split.

As John said, splits are not essential to kicking height.
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#381314 - 02/08/08 10:45 PM Re: kicking height. [Re: BrianS]
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hmm i should look up the mechanics to a nice round house kick.

im assuming a kick the the legs rib or head is somewhat the same emchanics? just different heights.
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#381315 - 02/08/08 10:52 PM Re: kicking height. [Re: Jer_sm]
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I've always been told to point your knee where you want your foot to go. You still want to kick across and not up. Of course this is one of those things that's easier to show than to convey on a forum for me.

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#381316 - 05/03/08 08:45 PM Re: kicking height. [Re: WhiteDragon11]
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And do not forget the dynamic stretches. Do them before and after static and you will see major improvement.





Sorry white Dragon, this is bad advice.

If you need to do static stretches at all, stick them at the very end of your workout.

Or, if you are doing morning stretches do your dynamic then static.

DO NOT do static then dynamic immediately afterwards.

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#381317 - 05/04/08 12:57 AM Re: kicking height. [Re: UKfightfreak]
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UKfightfreak you're right on. a friend of mine does dynamic four times a week and static the other days (this is before school every morning) then during the day he has a habit of kick stretch kick etc. when overly happy & not sparring me. (i stand @ 5'9" and he's able without trying kick a good 3" over my head)
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#381318 - 05/04/08 01:12 AM Re: kicking height. [Re: UKfightfreak]
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Hmmm...
If this is bad advice, then why does my method work.

My stretching involves a warmup/dynamic, static passive, dynamic. The warmup and dynamic loosen the body and get the blood flowing. Then the static just lightly stretches anything that is tight and gets its looser. Then the dynamic afterwards gets the blood running again, and finishes your stretching.

I understand doing static stretches after a workout, I totally agree.
However can you give me your reasoning behind not doing dynamic stretches after static stretches?

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#381319 - 05/04/08 05:44 PM Re: kicking height. [Re: WhiteDragon11]
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Hi WhiteDragon,

Quoted from Stretching Scientifically (4th edition p22) by Tom Kurz:

Quote:


"Some reasons not to do static stretches before exercises according to Shrier (1999; 2000):
- There is no scientific evidence that static stretches before exercise reduces the risk of injury.
- Even mild static stretching can damage muscle cells.
- Static stretching increases pain tolerance.

In the words of Dr. Shrier (2000). " it does not seem prudent to increase one's tolerance to pain, possibly create some damage at the cytoskeletal level, and then exercise this damaged anesthetized muscle".





Further to this on page 23 there is an outlined paragraph which reads:
Quote:


Cation: If you try to make a fast, dynamic movement immediately after a strenuous stretch, whether static or bouncing, you may injure your stretched muscles.




Hope this helps.

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#381320 - 05/04/08 09:14 PM Re: kicking height. [Re: UKfightfreak]
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Well I guess those are good facts, I have no reason to deny them. However, I have not come in contact with any problems with my stretching. Thanks for the help though.

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#381321 - 05/06/08 11:10 PM Re: kicking height. [Re: WhiteDragon11]
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Well I guess those are good facts, I have no reason to deny them. However, I have not come in contact with any problems with my stretching. Thanks for the help though.




Yeah. When I was 15 I could have done just about any type of stretching good or bad and been fine,for the moment.

Try doing that stuff when you are 34 and your body has been traumatized and broken down,lol!!

Then,you will listen.
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