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#377167 - 01/07/08 07:40 AM Re: JKD VS. Wing Chun [Re: WC_Lun]
JKogas Offline
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Registered: 01/25/03
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WC_Lun makes a good point. While you are training in someone's school, I think it goes without saying to respect their opinions and philosophy if you willingly choose to remain a student there. I mean, we are all free to go elsewhere, if we don't agree with the instructors points of view.


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#377168 - 01/07/08 11:35 AM Re: JKD VS. Wing Chun [Re: JKogas]
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Everything what You all mentioned here is very helpful to me, Thank You once again.

Just....one more thing and that's it .

I think freedom for one's opinion during the classes is important. Why somebody, instructor for example, should bother himself by hiding some of facts or tries to stay as far as possible from them?

I guess wing chun guys wants to tell that Lee was great only because he studied it, it's like everything he achieved was due to wing chun... And that's why they ignore phenomenon of JKD.

OK, no more cries...
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#377169 - 01/08/08 05:02 PM Re: JKD VS. Wing Chun [Re: LifesFist]
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Wing Chun is a great system in it's own right, but the reason for Lee's exploration of other arts was because through his experimentation he found WC had some weakness, lacked fluidity and was trapped in it's own classical mess.

It was also thought by the top WC exponents that Bruce Lee was a beginner (comparable to a Shodan level) practictioner of Wing Chun, a simple art that he had only basic understanding of. Which shows with a solid basic foundation what can be accomplished using an open mind to training.

But as the others stated build your foundation in WC/any art 1st, then seek your path to the truth. JKD would be a eye opening experinces after training in WC pluses & minues.

No system is the catch all best system for all r any situation. Now a person can train his system to be used and respond to almost any real changes in his environment. imo.
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#377170 - 01/22/08 06:17 PM Re: JKD VS. Wing Chun [Re: LifesFist]
paine Offline
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Registered: 01/22/08
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even if it is juast a modifacation of wing chun its still a martial art...

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#377171 - 01/23/08 12:06 PM Re: JKD VS. Wing Chun [Re: paine]
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But its not a modification of WC, some JKD has very little Wc left in it, Juna-Fa Gung-fu was a mod of WC back in the 60s but alot of modern JKD could hardly be called a mod of Wing Chun.

It is a MA way of thinking, we agree there.


Edited by Neko456 (01/23/08 12:07 PM)
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#377172 - 01/26/08 03:35 PM Re: JKD VS. Wing Chun [Re: Neko456]
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To me JKD is no more Wing Chun than it is Karate, Muay Thai or Greco Roman. Its simply a process. More importantly than the ideas it presents in a martial aspect are the philosophies it gives us for life. Simplicity, daily decrease, control of one's ego, thoughts and actions. The ability to look outside the box, and to go against the grain. JKD can be applied to ANY art. JKD is nothing more than taking the ideas and APPLYING them to life.
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#377173 - 01/26/08 03:47 PM Re: JKD VS. Wing Chun [Re: Chen Zen]
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Registered: 10/12/05
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nice to see you back around here chen zen.
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#377174 - 01/26/08 03:53 PM Re: JKD VS. Wing Chun [Re: student_of_life]
Chen Zen Offline
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Thank you student. Ive been off and on a few times. Im getting reay to have a son, and ive just moved to a new town with a new job so I havent been on much but thats going to change soon an Ill be back like I used to be.
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#377175 - 01/26/08 05:12 PM Re: JKD VS. Wing Chun [Re: Chen Zen]
student_of_life Offline
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sounds like you have a full plate, good luck with it all bud! and congrats with the son!
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#377176 - 02/06/08 06:03 PM Re: JKD VS. Wing Chun [Re: student_of_life]
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Thanks. Ive got alot going on but Im looking forward to it. Hopefully Ill get a break soon and Ill have a chance to fill everyone in on whats been going on lately.
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