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#377036 - 01/11/08 11:34 AM Re: The Global Warming thread... [Re: MattJ]
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If they are all socialists and communists that hate us, why would they take a position supported by a prominent American, and the two most influential ecological policy arms of our own goverment? Are the EPA and NOAA communists as well?




Matt,
The answer is obvious. Al Gore is not an American. Tipper is, but Al is not.
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#377037 - 01/11/08 11:41 AM Re: The Global Warming thread... [Re: oldman]
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Tipper is, but Al is not.




Bless Tipper Gore, she did more to ensure kids bought obscene content music albums than any other person on earth. Rick Rubin must have had her on the payroll
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#377038 - 01/11/08 11:47 AM Re: The Global Warming thread... [Re: Cord]
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Tipper is, but Al is not.




Bless Tipper Gore, she did more to ensure kids bought obscene content music albums than any other person on earth. Rick Rubin must have had her on the payroll




LOL. I went out and bought "Cop Killer" because of that. Still listen to it.

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#377039 - 01/11/08 06:05 PM Re: The Global Warming thread... [Re: MattJ]
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..."Last year was among the six warmest years since records began in the 1850s and the British Met Office said last week that 2008 will be the coolest year since 2000, partly because of a La Nina event that cuts water temperatures in the Pacific."

Here's the article: web page

I still want to know why, if the we are seeing "global warming", was 2007 only one of the 6 warmest years since the 1850's. Why not THE warmest?
Here again, this "scientist" refuses to recognize teh fact that temperatures also go down.

This same article says that they expect 2008 to be cooler than last year. It then says "global warming has not ended".

This article was linked from a site that had another article about the first snow in Baghdad in 100 years. I would think that the temperature must have dropped quite a bit there.

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#377040 - 01/11/08 06:16 PM Re: The Global Warming thread... [Re: JAMJTX]
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"The record year for world temperatures was 1998, ahead of 2005, according to WMO data. Among recent signs of the effects of warming, Arctic sea ice shrank last year to a record low."

The above quote is from the same article. Even though we have seen unequivocal global warming, they have to back 10 years to find a record high.

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#377041 - 01/11/08 07:43 PM Re: The Global Warming thread... [Re: JAMJTX]
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Here again, this "scientist" refuses to recognize teh fact that temperatures also go down.




Sorry, Jim. Science is noting the trend to Global Warming. No one said it is a perfectly linear scale, either. I suppose by your logic you expect Monday to be warmer than Sunday, which would have been warmer than Saturday....etc. Come on man. Get real. It would be like 300F in a month.

No one is suggesting that the seasons are going to disappear tomorrow. The whole thing is, the damage is controllable NOW. If we keep trying to ignore the science because we're lazy or stupid, we are simply digging the whole deeper - for the next generation. But I guess this is what modern America is about. "Hey it's not affecting me, so why should I worry?"

How do you guys even square that with the preservation instincts and training that you get from martial arts? I don't expect to be in a fight anytime soon, but I train just in case. I don't expect the Polar ice cap to melt next week, either. But I have replaced all the incandescent bulbs in my house, and drive a four cylinder car. It COULD be a problem, so let's take some steps, huh?

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This article was linked from a site that had another article about the first snow in Baghdad in 100 years.






It is not giving a friggin local weather report for you. I can pick out specific incidents all day, too. How about the temperature trend right here on the East Coast? Baltimore just set a January high temp record of 70F/22C, with several days of well above-average temperatures. So now I guess it's back on, right? Geez.
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#377042 - 01/11/08 07:56 PM Re: The Global Warming thread... [Re: MattJ]
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OK. So in the phrase "global warming", "global" means only in certain areas and "warming" means "sometimes the temperatures go down over a period of years and sometimes decades".

Now it all makes sense.

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#377043 - 01/11/08 08:07 PM Re: The Global Warming thread... [Re: JAMJTX]
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OK. So in the phrase "global warming", "global" means only in certain areas and "warming" means "sometimes the temperatures go down over a period of years and sometimes decades".

Now it all makes sense.




I don't really buy it either.
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#377044 - 01/11/08 08:47 PM Re: The Global Warming thread... [Re: JAMJTX]
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Jim,
what is hilarious in this debate is that the crux of the argument always gets to the melting of the polar ice cap. Well, the good news is that the polar ice cap has always melted and refrozen.. the bad news for the global warming crowd is that the polar ice cap is continuing to melt and refreeze.

I've probably said this ten times on this thread, but the temperature calculations quoted as the "reason" for global warming were off by a factor of 100. The number should have been .03 to .05 degrees... not 3 to 5 degrees... and these "global warming geniuses" are too proud or too stupid to admit the mistake.... but of course, they couldn't sell you any "carbon credits" if they did that...

As for "local global warming", when I lived in New Orleans, I had a friend that was from Canada who worked with us. He would bet people anytime during the winter that the temperature in Vancouver Island was warmer than the temperature in New Orleans... and he won the bet about 75% of the time... It seems the gulf stream turns right there, so unless an unusual high pressure pushes it further south, it turns almost over the top of Vancouver. I can't tell you how many free drinks we got from that...

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#377045 - 01/11/08 09:02 PM Re: The Global Warming thread... [Re: wristtwister]
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Also, as the Polar Ice Cap is currently receding, there is an increase in Antarctic Ice.
I also read an article not too long ago about increases in ice in Sweden. There is so much new ice that there is concern that herds of reindeer will starve because there'snot enough food.

Overall, since "global warming" has started, we have seen a net increase in ice around the world.

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