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#375155 - 01/25/08 07:24 PM Re: CHI? Tibetan Monks, Harvard, scientific study. [Re: jude33]
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I think you misread me a little. The whole point of that post was just that I see it as counter-productive to try and convince someone your strong beliefs w/o proof are more correct than their strong beliefs w/o proof.

It's just as bad as a religious or political argument. The chances of one side swaying the other with their argument is next to nothing.

And now I may be misreading you, but it seems that you thought I said chi was silly. I didn't. I merely said arguing about it's existance was silly. That also means I didn't say researching it or studying it was silly. Just the argument.
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#375156 - 01/25/08 08:55 PM Re: CHI? Tibetan Monks, Harvard, scientific study. [Re: JMWcorwin]
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It is a silly argument. until someone expresses convincing relation between Ki and matter, there will be too much skepticism.
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#375157 - 01/25/08 10:36 PM Re: CHI? Tibetan Monks, Harvard, scientific study. [Re: JMWcorwin]
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Quote:

I think you misread me a little. The whole point of that post was just that I see it as counter-productive to try and convince someone your strong beliefs w/o proof are more correct than their strong beliefs w/o proof.

It's just as bad as a religious or political argument. The chances of one side swaying the other with their argument is next to nothing.

And now I may be misreading you, but it seems that you thought I said chi was silly. I didn't. I merely said arguing about it's existance was silly. That also means I didn't say researching it or studying it was silly. Just the argument.




Hi
Naaaa. Not at all . It seems we are on the same wave-length.
But I think argument is worth while sometimes because I think some people tend to become unrealistic about things.

There seems to be a lot of definitions of chi. The one that I tend to think chi is, would be energy. This exists as an accepted definition in the English language.

At the least thinking positive about something/ anything should have a placebo effect. One use might be on a longer run when feeling tired to imagine feeling extra energy flowing.

I have tried it and it does seem to work although I didnt equate it to the thought of chi.

That more than likely activated increased dopomine levels,
but it doesnt real matter so long as it helps (along with the physical adjustments/improvements ) to get the desired result e.g faster, longer runs.

Still looking in to the study of the use of the mind though.

Jude

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#375158 - 01/26/08 01:09 AM Re: CHI? Tibetan Monks, Harvard, scientific study. [Re: jude33]
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how about this as a working definition of Chi?
An image or images held in the mind of a practitioner which aids in the manifestation of intent. See: Thoughtform.


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#375159 - 01/26/08 03:46 AM Re: CHI? Tibetan Monks, Harvard, scientific study. [Re: jude33]
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feeding the fire:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=oGaWhP4lbys&feature=related

comments, thoughts?

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#375160 - 01/26/08 09:36 AM Re: CHI? Tibetan Monks, Harvard, scientific study. [Re: Ed_Morris]
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feeding the fire:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=oGaWhP4lbys&feature=related

comments, thoughts?





Thats easy. This is the kind of explanation for chi that I was refering to when I stated sometimes arguments are good".

There are certain M/A people in this country (whose lineage is established ) that have suddenly took it on them selves to make videos of the same thing.

Why?

I guess to make money. Jump on the band wagen.

This isnt the kind of use of the mind I wish or would waste my time studying.

Jude.



Edited by jude33 (01/26/08 09:39 AM)

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#375161 - 01/26/08 03:12 PM Re: CHI? Tibetan Monks, Harvard, scientific study. [Re: jude33]
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But if chi really exists, why shouldn't this type of thing be possible?

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#375162 - 01/26/08 05:12 PM Re: CHI? Tibetan Monks, Harvard, scientific study. [Re: fileboy2002]
jude33 Offline
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But if chi really exists, why shouldn't this type of thing be possible?




The definition of chi exists. Beyond that I guess you being a teacher as you say you are you should be able to disprove or prove it exists. You seem to be so interested in the topic why dont you write a thesis?

But can I suggest you use your own work and not copy and paste some one elses?

Jude


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Edited by Reiki (01/26/08 07:40 PM)

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#375163 - 01/26/08 06:09 PM Re: CHI? Tibetan Monks, Harvard, scientific study. [Re: jude33]
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Jude33, have you ever gone to school? Do you even know what research is? If someone makes a claim and does not provide evidence--does not cite someone else's work--that claim is considered worthless. Your objection makes absolutely no sense at all.

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Edited by Reiki (01/26/08 07:41 PM)

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#375164 - 01/26/08 11:11 PM Re: CHI? Tibetan Monks, Harvard, scientific study. [Re: fileboy2002]
jude33 Offline
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Jude33, have you ever gone to school? Do you even know what research is? If someone makes a claim and does not provide evidence--does not cite someone else's work--that claim is considered worthless. Your objection makes absolutely no sense at all.

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maybe I also need to slap your wrists in here too.
PLAY NICE - or else!!




I agree with an opinion given by another person on another thread.

The video posted was of fakers.

I think that is what the other person refered to.

To many fakers in the world.

Would you agree?

Jude

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