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#374305 - 12/16/07 11:21 PM Swords Legal In MA
Black_Ninja Offline
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Loc: USA, MA
I wanted to know the legailitty of swords in Massachusetts. My dad says I can go to jail for 5 years for owing one. My friend has to swords and we go outside with them all the time.

Please let meh know
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#374306 - 12/17/07 12:28 AM Re: Swords Legal In MA [Re: Black_Ninja]
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If they were outright illegal to own, they would not be for sale. On-line sellers would not be allowed to ship them into the state and thier web sites would have a disclaimer.

There may be some laws with regards to age and where/when you can carry them. If your just out cutting in the backyard you probably won't get in trouble. If your carrying one around the streets you may get stopped.

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#374307 - 12/17/07 10:14 AM Re: Swords Legal In MA [Re: JAMJTX]
Charles Mahan Offline
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There are a number of good training oppurtunities in Mass, in particular in the Boston area. That alone proves that ownership is not illegal. If you're really curious about the laws in your local area, I would suggest contacting one of these places. Those folks are going to know the local laws the best. While you're talking to them, why not sign up for genuine training? Your father might be more willing to support you if he knew you had access to good instruction to help keep your fingers attached to your hands.

As was previously mentioned, while it is legal to own them, if you take them out in public and start swinging them around, you put yourself at risk for running afoul of any number of laws including reckless endangerment and disturbing the peace.

Those folks who genuinely train with their weapons put them in a bag for transport, and store them in the trunk of their car. That way if they get pulled over by the cops it's easy to show that the weapon is not meant to be readily available. The same folks also generally only transport them between their home and their training location.

Swords aren't toys and shouldn't be treated as such. They are more like guns with a hair trigger, no safety and which can't be unloaded. The cops are going to treat them that way.
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#374308 - 12/17/07 03:19 PM Re: Swords Legal In MA [Re: Charles Mahan]
Black_Ninja Offline
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Thankx I will look into it. I'm trying to start training soon because I have always loved the martial arts and would like to begin training ASAP. I enjoy weapon based martial arts and Regular Martial arts. I preffer advanced martial arts that require lots of training and that is not seen often
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#374309 - 12/17/07 03:51 PM Re: Swords Legal In MA [Re: Black_Ninja]
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Where are you located in Mass? Perhaps we can point you towards a training oppurtunity? I know of a couple of good places in Boston.
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#374310 - 12/17/07 04:04 PM Florehnce, MA [Re: Charles Mahan]
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Just in case this is close to you, it's a good place to start:

Andres Corrada
Valley Iaido
41 Pine St
Florence, MA 01062
andres@corrada.com
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#374311 - 12/17/07 07:16 PM Re: Florehnce, MA [Re: JAMJTX]
Black_Ninja Offline
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That place is over an hour away from me lol. I live in Belmont MA, I bounce around to boston and medford alot
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#374312 - 12/17/07 08:39 PM Re: Florehnce, MA [Re: Black_Ninja]
Charles Mahan Offline
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Well there's always http://www.bostoniaido.com

Nguyen-sensei's got a good program going there.
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#374313 - 12/17/07 09:12 PM Re: Florehnce, MA [Re: Black_Ninja]
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I teach Japanese swordsmanship in Boston, MA as well in the Roxbury Crossing/Mission Hill area. 1 1/2 block from Roxbury Crossing orange line train station.

www.BostonSamuraiArts.com

Location and class schedule is in the website. Map and directions you can see by clicking on the Contact link at the bottom right of the website.

If you're under 18 years old, bring your parent as I must meet them first and require their personal approval if I accept you. But come by and observe a class. I look forward to meeting you.

Regards,
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#374314 - 12/17/07 09:48 PM Re: Florehnce, MA [Re: Walter Wong]
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I am looking for a place that teaches Miyamoto Musashi's Dual Wield Sword Style, or something similar to it. I plan on buying a katana and wakazashi. I know how to handle them well because my friend took kenjutsu and taught me a little. I only feel comfortable with swords when they are not sharp.

I'm also all for hand to hand combat training as well. Thank you all for the suggesting I will check them out.
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#374315 - 12/17/07 11:39 PM 2 good schools to start with [Re: Black_Ninja]
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Cesar,

You have to good schools reccomended to you here.

The problem with you looking for someone to teach you the "Musashi style" is that you are far more likely to find a mcdojo that claims to be teaching it than you will be to find someone who actually does. Just be careful and come back and ask qiestions before signing on with anyone who claims to be teaching the Musashi style.

If you want sword and related empty-hand, start with the Boston Samurai Arts. I only say that because the Boston Iaido web site does not list them as part of the curriculum.

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#374316 - 12/18/07 11:02 AM Re: 2 good schools to start with [Re: JAMJTX]
Charles Mahan Offline
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If you are serious about studying Musashi's style, you should probably learn what it's called. The actual name of hte style is Hyoho Niten Ichi Ryu. You'd also best be prepared for a great deal of travel and expense. There are only a handful of people outside of Japan who are studying the system, none of them in your neck of the woods.

You had also best be prepared to train with wooden weapons.

There is more information to be found at http://www.hyoho.com/Hyoho1.html

Now as Jim mentioned there are probably a great many local McDojos that will likely be happy to claim to teach whatever style you want for a not so modest fee. Be very careful who you choose to study under. Swords are dangerous weapons and can hurt you very badly. Quality instruction is paramount to learning to properly use them.

Now if you don't have the money or ability to travel to where the style you want is, you should probably re-evaluate your priorities and examine the oppurtunities that are available to you. There are some really nice oppurtunities available in your area. It would be a shame to pass them up because you want something that isn't available.


Edited by Charles Mahan (12/18/07 11:03 AM)
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#374317 - 12/18/07 11:10 PM Re: 2 good schools to start with [Re: Charles Mahan]
Black_Ninja Offline
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Registered: 12/16/07
Posts: 6
Loc: USA, MA
I will look two the two schools and see which one is local and easier for me to get two. I guess I will train in Musashi's Style sometime later in my life when I have more time. Right now I should learn the basics. I have read his book of 5 rings and plan on getting deeper into it. I would love to tree out both of those schools ASAP and see if I like them. Thanks everyone for your help, I am new here and I now know this is a great and caring community.

Thanks
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#374318 - 01/26/08 10:38 AM Re: 2 good schools to start with [Re: Black_Ninja]
slix Offline
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Posts: 26
Loc: Boston, MA
Black you may want to check out Shim Gum Do as well.

It's a Korean Zen Sword art. After you've progressed to a certain point you can learn open palm and eventually dual sword but you'll have to reach 3rd Dan in Sword before you can start dual.

Check it out.

http://www.shimgumdo.org

The reason I chose to train in this school is as the founding master is still alive and teaches at the temple I have the opportunity to learn under the founder and all 1st generation masters which was what tipped the scales for me. Well that and location.:)
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#429885 - 09/11/10 01:41 AM Re: Swords Legal In MA [Re: Black_Ninja]
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its a lil late for this but it is illegal to own any swords in mass.i live in cambridge ma near boston. my house got raided today cuz my brother got busted for tagging. i didnt know they raided houses for that... anyways they took all my weapons which were hung up on the wall and in their sheaths or w/e they came with. clearly collectibles and i got them from bud k or in the mall in this town. lmao said i cant own any double edge weapons. last i checked katanas were single edged, oh did i mention they left my bong compound bow machete and the only double edged sword i owned which is a 2 hander they left and said i could keep it. they also took daggers throwing knives and other small weapons 2. so i wouldnt be bringing that outside if i was u.

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#430004 - 09/16/10 08:13 PM Re: Florehnce, MA [Re: Black_Ninja]
Kathryn Offline
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Registered: 09/24/09
Posts: 262
Loc: Washington, DC
Originally Posted By: Black_Ninja
I am looking for a place that teaches Miyamoto Musashi's Dual Wield Sword Style, or something similar to it. I plan on buying a katana and wakazashi. I know how to handle them well because my friend took kenjutsu and taught me a little. I only feel comfortable with swords when they are not sharp.

I'm also all for hand to hand combat training as well. Thank you all for the suggesting I will check them out.


From what I understand, many quality dojos teach wakazashi, but it is considered more advanced instruction after you gain the ability to control one blade. Please do not attempt to learn any techniques by yourself or think that you can 'handle' it just because your friend taught you a little. It takes months to learn how to control a katana. It is so easy to cut yourself even on a training sword, and much practice is spent on resheathing. It is boring and repetitive and painful, but it is very necessary to break down the wrist muscles and rebuild them.

Kathryn
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#430024 - 09/18/10 08:39 PM Re: Florehnce, MA [Re: Kathryn]
bcihak Offline
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Registered: 08/12/07
Posts: 298
Loc: Illinois
If you are interested in learning how to fight with a sword, and especially a weapon in each hand I have to recommend the martial arts from the Phillipines. I am currently studying Dekiti Tirsia Sirada kali, a sword based Phillipino art. In class today we worked sword and dagger techniques, which you find throughout the FMAs, from DTS kali as well as seeing some sword and dagger technique from Kombatan escrima and some from Doce Pares escrima. You will also find that serrada escrima specializes in stick and dagger close quarter work. Most FMAs also cover using sticks in each hand or knives in each hand.
The neat thing about the FMA's is one, you can usually find some FMAs near you, and two, you start training with weapons, with application, from the first class. Fillipino martial arts begin and end with weapons training. From your very first class. To see if I can sell you on the merits of the FMAs as weapon arts, keep in mind, many teachers today have trained with teachers who fought the japanese during world war 2, or trained with people who fought the japanese during the war. What this means to someone interested in weapons training is that there is practical experience only one generation of teachers away from many of the people you might train with. By practical experience I mean men who fought the Japanese with Ginunting swords, bolo knives or other blades vs. Japanese swords and bayonets. Also, there are many older practitioners who grew up in the Phillipine Islands before world war 2 who actually used the art to survive in fights vs. other stick or blade wielding attackers. The stories are pretty interesting.
I have to agree with the other posters on the site, get quality instruction from an actual teacher. Training by yourself or from a video is not a viable option. You can write to me here and I can help you find a teacher near you if you are interested in fillipino sword and knife arts. Good luck, happy training.


Edited by bcihak (09/18/10 08:54 PM)

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#430849 - 11/11/10 01:00 AM Re: Florehnce, MA [Re: bcihak]
kristinapetrico Offline
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Registered: 10/13/10
Posts: 5
"If you are interested in learning how to fight with a sword, and especially a weapon in each hand I have to recommend the martial arts from the Phillipines."

I have to agree with you because Philippines has a great instructor on fighting and about swords.

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#430998 - 11/29/10 08:05 AM Re: Florehnce, MA [Re: Black_Ninja]
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Loc: Usa
Hello,
Swords aren't toys and shouldn't be treated as such. They are more like guns with a hair trigger, no safety and which can't be unloaded. The cops are going to treat them that way.
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