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#373380 - 12/07/07 03:06 PM Latest round of abuse
tkd_high_green Offline
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I participated in another tournament this past weekend. Video from that competition is now up, if anyone is interested.

Team Forms:
Pattern - Gae Baek. I'm the one on the right side of the screen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_1NoQjadY8

Point Sparring:
I'm in blue.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWa02FC75GU

As usual, any constructive feedback is welcome.

Laura

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#373381 - 12/07/07 04:01 PM Re: Latest round of abuse [Re: tkd_high_green]
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Hi Laura. Thanks for the video. I liked how you were working more lateral/circular footwork than I have seen before. I also liked the high fake/low punch combo, you used that effectively a few times.

You might try using shin blocks a bit more to stop nuisance kicks. You can also use a low(ish) chamber just to threaten - keeps them from coming in if you chamber quickly and aggressively. You can also try to make that high fake a real shot. You were close enough to do so several times.

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#373382 - 12/07/07 04:36 PM Re: Latest round of abuse [Re: MattJ]
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Thanks Matt!

I see you picked up on my favorite combination. It's one of the few that really feels comfortable to me, and it gets her every time! One of my goals before the next tournament is to start working out some variations on that theme. I was doing it so often, I was worried she was going to figure me out and start countering it. I also need to get better at getting around those blasted side kicks. Any suggestions?

FYI, Heather is from my school as well, and we typically compete against each other. I will admit, she was holding back quite a bit that day because I had hurt my neck about three days before, although it was feeling fine that day, she agreed to avoid the head kicks if I would still spar, just to be safe.

Since I have to fight her on a regular basis, in class and at tournaments, any suggestions on pointing out her weaknesses is appreciated as well.

Laura

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#373383 - 12/08/07 02:03 AM Re: Latest round of abuse [Re: tkd_high_green]
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The couple of things I noticed was the tendency for both of you to drop both your hands for lower kicks and then leave them there. That leaves your head and chest open for follow up techniques. On that note, don't stop until you hear the break, even in a friendly match.

You fight from a right lead entirely...even when you switched to a left lead you immediatley kicked with your right foot then set back down into a right lead. That can limit your techniques and allow your opponent to set you up easier.

Something you might look at that I believe would improve your success would be y stepping or sliding. Using your feet to flank and get beside or behind your opponent limits thier offense and defense and puts you into easy mode.

You have a good eye for the opening and I like how when you saw the opening you hit it instead of holding back.

Hope that helps and good luck in future tournaments!

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#373384 - 12/08/07 08:10 AM Re: Latest round of abuse [Re: WC_Lun]
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Thanks WC!

I agree, I am very much a right leg kicker, but that is primarily due to an old injury in my left foot. It's taken a long time to heal, and while I am making a lot of progress with bag and paddle work, getting my strength back in that foot, I am still very hesitant about putting it out where it can get reinjured in a less controlled situation like sparring. I was please to have kicked a few times with my left leg and come away without needing a readjustment to my foot, which is the first time that has happened after a tournament. So progress is being made, however slowly.

Thanks again for the suggestions.

Laura

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#373385 - 12/08/07 08:43 AM Re: Latest round of abuse [Re: tkd_high_green]
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Hey Laura, congrats on competing! First on Ge-Baek:

The first thing that really jumped out at me was how well you performed the w-shaped blocks compared to the last time we saw a video. They had good power and torque in the hips and I'm impressed you improved it that much in such a short length of time. The pattern generally looked very good, although when you transitioned from bending ready stance to palm upward block in sitting stance, it looked messy. I think the reason for this is that you begin the technique to early; don't start the scooping part of the technique until much later.

Sparring: You did well with the lateral motion, and some of your combinations looked nice. I liked how you went for openings with that lead punch, however don't forget that once you score with a punch there are often lots more things open that you can hit with the rear hand.

You mentioned getting round side kicks. Well, it is a difficult thing to do in point fighting, because your opponent can throw doubles and tripples on you. The most important thing is to move round your opponent so they don't have a chance to set properly. Other than that, there are plenty of drills you can do. One that we do is to have one person stand still on the spot while the other tries to feint to get that person to side-kick. After he kicks, the feinter comes in just as the kick is retracted to counter. It takes a lot of work to get good at, but it will also improve your footwork no end.

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#373386 - 12/09/07 03:54 PM Re: Latest round of whining [Re: tkd_high_green]
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Laura,

Are you aware of your hands when you kick? Watch what your hands are doing in the video in the forms and in the sparring. They are flailing. You need to keep good control of your hands when you kick. Wouldn't it be funny if your legs did that when you punched? This is really something that should be stressed at kyu/student level.

During the forms, your transition in stances is robotic and you are off balance a lot of times. That's something that needs improvement.

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I see you picked up on my favorite combination. It's one of the few that really feels comfortable to me, and it gets her every time! One of my goals before the next tournament is to start working out some variations on that theme. I was doing it so often, I was worried she was going to figure me out and start countering it. I also need to get better at getting around those blasted side kicks. Any suggestions?





It's good that you can find weaknesses in people's sparring and exploit that.
Simply raise your leg to take a sidekick out of play. If you can, use feints to make them kick, retract, then attack forward when they are planting.

I'm not sure how you can teach students to do something you yourself aren't capable of.


Edited by Supremor (12/09/07 04:08 PM)
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#373387 - 12/10/07 12:11 AM Re: Latest round of whining [Re: BrianS]
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Hi Laura,

Patterns.
That was a stronger performance and on the whole it was good.
The Horse Stance/Scooping Block combination seemed a little blurred.
The Jumping Side kick is always a difficult one to get right, just after the Turning Kick.
Your San Makgis are getting there. Top Half was strong, but the Cha Bapgi was not fully emphasized.
Focus was good


Sparring.
I am sorry to hear about your neck injury, which must have been playing on your mind.
Also you mentioned that you have an old injury regarding your left leg.

It’s funny, I started logging observations prior to reading about your injuries and it did explain both fighters reluctance to commit.

But as I don’t know what level of discomfort you are in, please take my observations as if you were in good health.

R Stance, Left hand too low and leaves you wide open for a high Turning Kick (00.25), which could easily have come in at 00.27.

Nice Counter 00.29, but then you stopped and moved back outside of range and let the other girl re-initiate her attacks.
(Have you tried to connect with a lead Nopunde Dollyo Chagi as you step back from finishing a combination? That would catch a countering opponent).

It seemed that you both were concentrating on singular techniques too much.

It got a bit scrappy (00.26 to 00.39), but you seemed to get into the flow a little more (02.17 to 02.21) with some Hand Combinations.

If you get fazed by “Machine-Gun Dollyo Chagis”, try laying a Lead Crescent / Crescent-Axe over (or down on) the attacking leg, following up immediately with a Turning Kick with your rear leg. (The Crescent will force their kicking leg to the ground).
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#373388 - 12/10/07 04:21 PM Re: Latest round of whining [Re: GriffyGriff]
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Another nice way of dealing with "Magine-gun Dollyo Chagis" is shown in this link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBaamXnY2U0
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#373389 - 12/10/07 04:30 PM Re: Latest round of whining [Re: GriffyGriff]
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Good find, Griff!
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#373390 - 12/10/07 04:48 PM Re: Latest round of whining [Re: MattJ]
tkd_high_green Offline
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Griff, Thanks for the video. That really helps! It's always easier to see what you mean when there is a visual to go with it.

Quote:

I'm not sure how you can teach students to do something you yourself aren't capable of.




Simple, I don't teach what I don't know, I leave that for my instructor. When asked questions I don't know the answer for, I ask my instructor, research it in the encyclopedia or on the web, or discuss it with other people who have demonstrated knowledge in that area.

Laura

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#373391 - 12/11/07 02:02 PM Re: Latest round of whining [Re: tkd_high_green]
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TEAM FORMS:

I can't really comment too much as I don't know this form being from a WTF background. Some of the hand movements could have been stronger. From my own training in WTF patterns and looking at the others it appeared that you should have been more square to your target at times in the pattern and when punching to your centre it should be to your solarplex whereas yours was not. Positive feedback, there was some good intensity doing many of your moves.

SPARRING:

I understand that ITF uses a lot of front roundhouse kicks but the few rear roundhouse kicks it looked more like you were just throwing out your leg and not starting or finishing the technique. Things to me looked too clumsy and perhaps this is because the two of you spar a lot together. Also it may be because of the point sparring system of the ITF that your school system follows. I didn't see any speed by either of you and you just stood toe to toe never creating space to defend in or cutting down space to attack. Your opponent continually threw out front kicks that you stood there and took when you should have been shooting back or stepping off to the side to avoid. Both of you spent too much time stalking each other in circles and were very predictable; but again this may be due to you always train together, I would be interested to see you go up against somebody that you have never sparred with to get a better idea of what you would do. I also didn't see much for leg kicks, it was always the same stuff; front roundhouse kicks. No faking was ever done nor were there back kicks or cut kicks or ax kicks or any other kicks that I've seen both in good WTF and ITF sparring matches. Some block and punching were attempted at some points but not when it would really have mattered and not to the full extent that they could have been used to offset your opponent and leaving room for you to counter attack. Sparring I found too one dimensional, slow and predictable.

I personal give you credit for going out and doing this stuff, many people would rather do nothing. I also give you credit for putting your videos up here for people to view; knowing that there will be negative feedback says you have tough skin or you are wanting to learn ... or you weren't expecting it.

I personally find sparring in TKD difficult as I can see things and I know I want to do things but I can't get my body and mind to work as one. I've had very few sparring sessions that I came out thinking ... yes ... that was great. I need a lot of work and know places where I need to work on in my game. I hope that you see this as well and why you are putting these up here so that you can improve. With that said, I feel more comfortable grappling then sparring TKD or even sparring where stand-up to take-down is involved; it just is more realistic and seems to flow better for me and my mind and body can work together better.
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