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#370783 - 01/21/08 02:59 AM Re: Stationary training [Re: Ed_Morris]
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I don't neccessarily subscribe to this concept...but I thought i'd throw it out there.

Alot of the Daoist stuff claims and as far as I know has claimed for a long time to lengthen one's lifepsan, I have no idea how much documented evidence there is of these guys living longer than normal, and even if they did...so do alot of Karate guys, and alot of Yogis, and whatever.

Obviously no tradition could claim to enhance longevity in the way western science has, but I personally don't discount the effect that Qigong and related practices have on health, nor would I dismiss out of hand TCM and related practices as purely superstition or magical thinking.

On a martial arts level, dismissing internal work entirely is as silly to me as someone saying they can fight by projecting their Chi. No offense Butterfly Palm.

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#370784 - 01/21/08 03:23 AM Re: Stationary training [Re: Ed_Morris]
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Funny, I actually wanted to say precisely that (well, not so in such fine succinct phrases) but I happened to be at a public internet centre and my neighbor's screen had something which caught my peripheral vision and I was momentarily distracted and, very much against my general character, opted for an easy way out, which in no way, I hasten to add, dilute the sincerity of my previous post.

Yeah, what about stationary training that you do not know already and to which I've augmented with a life-time's worth of material which, in the olden days, a student would hope to get from a master by kneelling two days and two nights in a blizzard?

But with global warming and climate change.....
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#370785 - 01/21/08 03:28 AM Re: Stationary training [Re: Zach_Zinn]
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On a martial arts level, dismissing internal work entirely is as silly to me as someone saying they can fight by projecting their Chi. No offense Butterfly Palm.




...no problem, you are not the first.
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#370786 - 01/21/08 08:27 AM Re: Stationary training [Re: ButterflyPalm]
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I'm not sure???? There seems to be conflicting information... (that's Internet research for you)....

Apparently, Herodotus (ca. 484 BCE ca. 425 BCE) first made reference to Atlantis (the war between the Athenians and Atlanteans) in his writings on history (disputed - see http://www.eridu.co.uk/Author/atlantis/).

Plato (424/423 BC[a] 348/347 BC), nearly a century later, supposedly adapted the story of Atlantis in his dialogues, Timaeus and Critias. (See http://www.eridu.co.uk/Author/atlantis/ for various criticisms of Plato).

Some further interesting reading... although I can't vouch for its veracity:
http://www.earth-history.com/Atlantis/index.htm
http://www.atlantisquest.com/Writings.html

Sorry to go off-topic... I'll just go back to hugging my tree now...


Edited by eyrie (01/21/08 08:30 AM)

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#370787 - 01/21/08 09:41 AM Re: Stationary training [Re: eyrie]
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I'll just go back to hugging my tree now...




Thanks for the "conflicting" information. For some unknown reason both the names came to mind almost simultaneously, not sure why. As it turns out, both men had something to do with it. It deserves a thread all on its own.

You said hugging "my" tree; you actually own a tree? Seeing you're in Aust. it'll most likely be an eucalyptus (and I actually got the spelling right at first go too)
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#370788 - 01/21/08 11:43 AM Re: Stationary training [Re: ButterflyPalm]
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between this and the thoughtforms discussion, it's as if we need a new thread: "The Aging of Aquarius"

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#370789 - 01/21/08 06:57 PM Re: Stationary training [Re: ButterflyPalm]
eyrie Offline
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you actually own a tree?


Nah, it's an imaginary ghost gum eucalypt... whilst I'm riding my equally imaginary horse.

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#370790 - 01/22/08 03:57 AM Re: Stationary training [Re: Ed_Morris]
ButterflyPalm Offline
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Looks like your "Stationary Training" thread has come to a standstill.
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#370791 - 01/22/08 07:37 AM Re: Stationary training [Re: eyrie]
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Nah, it's an imaginary ghost gum eucalypt... whilst I'm riding my equally imaginary horse.




Could that be considered one of the side effects of stationary training?
I presume the tree is a dwarf type.

From what I am reading on this thread it seems stationary training might be aimed at gaining control of the conscious mind. Total concentration on a given task.

While training a skill using the part of the brain that is responsible for skill building. The so called muscle memory part.

So what is the next step? (pun was intended) but realy what is the next part after stationary training as regards training the mind?

Observation, visualization and imagination.
I dont suppose the human brain can tell the difference between the three.

Jude


Edited by jude33 (01/22/08 08:00 AM)

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#370792 - 01/22/08 07:44 AM Re: Stationary training [Re: ButterflyPalm]
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Looks like your "Stationary Training" thread has come to a standstill.



good one.

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