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#369659 - 11/13/07 02:41 PM Re: some karate video's for your viewing pleasure [Re: jude33]
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Look like a good practictioner of Shotokan, some may think he was be a little too vocal on every move. But I found the overall performance solid, and a good represenation of Shotokan.
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#369660 - 11/13/07 03:15 PM Re: some karate video's for your viewing pleasure [Re: Neko456]
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Look like a good practictioner of Shotokan, some may think he was be a little too vocal on every move. But I found the overall performance solid, and a good represenation of Shotokan.




Thanks for the links. I always like to see how other styles practice similar Katas.

But I must say that I personally found the Kata executions to be incredibly poor. I was gob-smacked to see him wearing a Black Belt. That was the standard of a yellow / early-green belt.

No Focus.
No looking before turning and blocking.
No Power in the blocks.
Techniques pulled. (That was a bad Maegeri).
No apparent understanding of certain techniques.
Walking Stance should have a straight rear leg. It looks like a longer cat stance.
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#369661 - 11/13/07 03:31 PM Re: some karate video's for your viewing pleasure [Re: GriffyGriff]
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Look like a good practictioner of Shotokan, some may think he was be a little too vocal on every move. But I found the overall performance solid, and a good represenation of Shotokan.




Thanks for the links. I always like to see how other styles practice similar Katas.

But I must say that I personally found the Kata executions to be incredibly poor. I was gob-smacked to see him wearing a Black Belt. That was the standard of a yellow / early-green belt.

No Focus.
No looking before turning and blocking.
No Power in the blocks.
Techniques pulled. (That was a bad Maegeri).
No apparent understanding of certain techniques.
Walking Stance should have a straight rear leg. It looks like a longer cat stance.







http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWTspBwfKwk


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHBPXdszX

Huh?

Which kata video are you refering to?

Jude

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#369662 - 11/13/07 03:34 PM Re: some karate video's for your viewing pleasure [Re: jude33]
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Jude,

Pretty sure he was referring to the original kata presentation ones from Student O' Life.

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#369663 - 11/13/07 04:03 PM Re: some karate video's for your viewing pleasure [Re: butterfly]
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Edited by jude33 (11/13/07 04:04 PM)

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#369664 - 11/13/07 04:06 PM Re: some karate video's for your viewing pleasure [Re: GriffyGriff]
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My Quote - Look like a good practictioner of Shotokan, some may think he was a little too vocal on every move. But I found the overall performance solid, and a good represenation of Shotokan.

GG's Quote -

No Focus.
No looking before turning and blocking.
No Power in the blocks.
Techniques pulled. (That was a bad Maegeri).
No apparent understanding of certain techniques.
Walking Stance should have a straight rear leg. It looks like a longer cat stance.

But I must say that I personally found the Kata executions to be incredibly poor. I was gob-smacked to see him wearing a Black Belt. That was the standard of a yellow / early-green belt.


My Reply - For what he was trying to do I found that he had enough of all the things you said he has missing. My God it was a practice Video not competition. His level of performance was fine for his level and purpose.

I don't believe you need to have a lot of facial expression to show focus or exaggerated head or striking/blocking moves to note change of direction or power in forms (thats certainly not what you do in a fight) or super loud face quakeing kias. Espeicailly in a practice kata demo.

For a Black belt level showing basic movement of a Kata his performance was fine. Would it place him in a competition probably not but I'm sure he could up the performance if in Competition. But for the purpose of the video he did fine.
Have I seen better for sure but I've also seen alot worse.

Thats one thing about putting personal performances on video and posting theres always someone expecting Grand Championship performance from practice videos.

Opinion are like a$$ holes, you have yours, I have mines. For the purpose of the video his kata were fine, IMHO.


Edited by Neko456 (11/13/07 04:13 PM)
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#369665 - 11/13/07 04:13 PM Re: some karate video's for your viewing pleasure [Re: Neko456]
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no neko!, its ok man, you go! you get out alive and tell my story!! i'll hold them off while you escape!!
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#369666 - 11/13/07 04:19 PM Re: some karate video's for your viewing pleasure [Re: student_of_life]
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Just for quick contrast I regrettably offer the following, which seem to be done for competition and/or demonstration.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24SKbTD1Q...ead.php?t=62216


Edited by Victor Smith (11/13/07 04:20 PM)
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#369667 - 11/13/07 04:33 PM Re: some karate video's for your viewing pleasure [Re: Neko456]
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My Quote - Look like a good practictioner of Shotokan, some may think he was a little too vocal on every move. But I found the overall performance solid, and a good represenation of Shotokan.
......

Opinion are like a$$ holes, you have yours, I have mines. For the purpose of the video his kata were fine, IMHO.




How many 'a$$holes' do you actually have?

Dude I was refering to the initial 4 Kata Links Heinan Yondan/Sandan/Nidan/Shodan.

The standard is poor!
A Black Belt should never perform at such a poor level, unless he was highlighting how NOT to do this to his students. (Which I am now confident that this is indeed the case).
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#369668 - 11/13/07 04:35 PM Re: some karate video's for your viewing pleasure [Re: Victor Smith]
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Just for quick contrast I regrettably offer the following, which seem to be done for competition and/or demonstration.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24SKbTD1Q...ead.php?t=62216




Brilliant!!
I LOVE the unco-ordinated effect!!
(Reminds me of the Monty Python race for those with no sense of direction).

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