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#366242 - 10/31/07 07:53 PM Re: Sorry Russell Sir- I had to copy this link [Re: MattJ]
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Looks like absolute garbage imo. I could barely get the clip to load to begin with. Then I see a person not resisting at all. Couldn't stomach much more of it to be honest so I don't know how the clip ended.

What tournaments has this guy won? Where were they held and who were the competitors?


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#366243 - 10/31/07 08:12 PM Re: Sorry Russell Sir- I had to copy this link [Re: JKogas]
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So you have an opinion of something that you have not seen.... Sounds like garbage to me.

What qualifies you to ask theose questions? What rank do you hold? What exporience do you have? Where did you train and can you provide the names of the Instructors?
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#366244 - 10/31/07 08:23 PM Re: Sorry Russell Sir- I had to copy this link [Re: Russell_Stutely]
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Russell -

With all due respect, John's questions are not out of line (at least in the grappling community). If someone makes claims about defeating BJJ people in competition, there should be records, such as those on Sherdog.

BJJ folk take those claims pretty seriously. A good competition record can mean better ranking, more students for teachers, etc. Many BJJ competitions are put to record for that purpose.
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#366245 - 10/31/07 11:28 PM Re: Sorry Russell Sir- I had to copy this link [Re: Russell_Stutely]
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http://www.martialartsyoutube.com/view_video.php?viewkey=d5072bb1864cdee4d3d6

(Breaking the guard) During the "resisting" part of the video I believe he did resist in a manner of speaking. He resisted by holding his position. He in no way tried to alter his position or keep it from happening, that's really not resisting in my opinion.
We practice this exact maneuver in my dojo in Ft. Smith, AR(if you want to travel ) and it does hurt,but not with the intensity that was displayed. You can break guard with it using the pressure point though,which was the point of the video.

BTW, You guys are straight goofy!!
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#366246 - 11/01/07 07:02 AM Re: Sorry Russell Sir- I had to copy this link [Re: Russell_Stutely]
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So you have an opinion of something that you have not seen.... Sounds like garbage to me.





NoÖI just saw it on the clip here that was provided. My opinion that it is garbage is based on the garbage that I saw in that clip. Itís my opinion which is inarguable. Youíre free to disagree.


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What qualifies you to ask theose questions?





What qualifies YOU to not answer them? The burden is yours bro, not mine.


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What rank do you hold? What experience do you have? Where did you train and can you provide the names of the Instructors?





Do you always answer questions WITH questions? Just answer the questions and donít WORRY about what Iím about. Mine were simple questions. I can provide all kinds of answers about my rank, my level of experience and who I have trained with, but the thing is, itís not MY video or school of thought that is in QUESTION -- itís YOURíS.

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#366247 - 11/01/07 07:56 AM Re: Sorry Russell Sir- I had to copy this link [Re: Russell_Stutely]
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I agree with John and Matt. when you are defending something or someone, you can't defend it simply by asking the questioners for THEIR qualifications. lol sorry, that tactic doesn't cut it.

assume this: everyone's only qualification is being able to verify your qualifications. (which is why people tend to avoid the questions, as you are doing)

meanwhile, as you gather (or invent) the info of past training/competition records...here's some more vids for the thread:

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=russell+stutely

ahhh...now I get it. selling 'd34dly' stuff:
http://www.russellstutely.com/

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#366248 - 11/01/07 08:34 AM Re: Sorry Russell Sir- I had to copy this link [Re: Russell_Stutely]
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Quote:

So you have an opinion of something that you have not seen.... Sounds like garbage to me.

What qualifies you to ask theose questions? What rank do you hold? What exporience do you have? Where did you train and can you provide the names of the Instructors?




Hi there.
I dont realy believe in everything connected with pressure points.I believe in that parts of human anatomy such as nerves in the thigh can be targetted . I think your man is a good actor. I am more than likely the least qualified (Unless having been in some fights qualifies me on that score) amongst some of these guys here but I think I can see a lot of garbage. Most pain in a fight or if I person is hyper/wound up is often dismissed by adrenalin untill after the event. The points your man on the video is pressing on would not give that amount of pain

Seems like some giant wind up or inappropiate marketing.
The guy who posted this is he still about? More than likely not

Just my input. This is an open forum so basicaly John can state as he wishes (within reason)
(All due respect Matt)

Jude

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#366249 - 11/01/07 08:38 AM Re: Sorry Russell Sir- I had to copy this link [Re: jude33]
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I don't see what is wrong with asking about the background of someone asking questions. The reason: shared terminology and setting a baseline for common understanding of terms.

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#366250 - 11/01/07 08:38 AM Re: Sorry Russell Sir- I had to copy this link [Re: Russell_Stutely]
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A quote of yours from the other thread Russ:

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but John is so good at groundwork that he breaks things off you BEFORE you get a chance to do anything to him!




I think this the point people are trying to make mate, whilst I know the clip was a bit of fun, the only thing thats attempted to be resisted against in the clip is the pain. If anyone on the forum doesn't believe that digging your elbow into the spleen meridian or inner thigh area is going to hurt like hell then give it ago. But resisting against the pain and resisting against someone trying put pain on you are two different things. I think thats what people are critiquing mate, not the fact that it hurts, merely what exactly we are resisting against. The definition of "resisting" generally used on the forum is where you actually have to scramble for the point, not just lay there a let someone put the point on you.

Like stand up, landing a clean shot on a moving live target is a hell of a lot harder than having someone standing there and just bashing a dumb uke.

Think that is all people are trying to say mate.
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#366251 - 11/01/07 09:00 AM Re: Sorry Russell Sir- I had to copy this link [Re: Gavin]
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But resisting against the pain and resisting against someone trying put pain on you are two different things.




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The definition of "resisting" generally used on the forum is where you actually have to scramble for the point, not just lay there a let someone put the point on you.




Exactly my point, Gav.
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