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#366332 - 01/24/08 07:03 AM Re: Sorry Russell Sir- I had to copy this link [Re: kyushoperson]
jude33 Offline
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Posts: 1539
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Hi jude

Hes not sparring you say? him and herol are in a ring with gloves on hitting each other, what do you call that?




Title of video
Herol Graham and Russell play spar
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymgdRXOgi4A

Is this the video you are refering to? If it is then I see it as they are playing around.

Sparring
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?doci...h&plindex=0

These two are not playing around
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?doci...h&plindex=0

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So you're saying when he says you can hit like a heavyweight, he means one who hits really weakly even softer than a middleweight?




Which heavyweight? lets say take a guy who had just started boxing and is say 18 stone mostly fat and he doesnt punch to good. Yet.
Compare that to a say a hyperthetical hard hitting pro middleweight.
This guy can use his punching power against a guy who is moving forward. He is more accurate.
Can you see the difference?

If whoever says using his methods a person could hit like a heavyweight and you find that strange then I would suggest e-mail whoever and ask him what does he mean?
You could always post the reply on here if you wish.
Better still perhaps attend one of his seminars and post your findings on here.

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He really should make that more clear. I've never seen a heavyweight who couldnt beat a middle weight lol




Which heavy weight and which middleweight?
I find generalising isnt the best thing to do in boxing/striking/grappling. Do you think?

Jude


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#366333 - 01/24/08 12:23 PM Re: Sorry Russell Sir- I had to copy this link [Re: jude33]
kyushoperson Offline
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Quote:

Quote:


Hi jude

Hes not sparring you say? him and herol are in a ring with gloves on hitting each other, what do you call that?




Title of video
Herol Graham and Russell play spar
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymgdRXOgi4A

Is this the video you are refering to? If it is then I see it as they are playing around.

Sparring
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?doci...h&plindex=0

These two are not playing around
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?doci...h&plindex=0

Quote:


So you're saying when he says you can hit like a heavyweight, he means one who hits really weakly even softer than a middleweight?




Which heavyweight? lets say take a guy who had just started boxing and is say 18 stone mostly fat and he doesnt punch to good. Yet.


'oh right so this is what you think he means when he says punch like a heavyweight i see a fat overweight beginner. lol'


Compare that to a say a hyperthetical hard hitting pro middleweight.
This guy can use his punching power against a guy who is moving forward. He is more accurate.
Can you see the difference?

If whoever says using his methods a person could hit like a heavyweight and you find that strange then I would suggest e-mail whoever and ask him what does he mean?
You could always post the reply on here if you wish.
Better still perhaps attend one of his seminars and post your findings on here.

'I've done both in the past on his seminar we spent all the time doing a jujitsu lock as i remember and some nonesense about tcm which he now doesnt believe in lol'

Quote:


He really should make that more clear. I've never seen a heavyweight who couldnt beat a middle weight lol




Which heavy weight and which middleweight?
I find generalising isnt the best thing to do in boxing/striking/grappling. Do you think?

'Well you just did that with your hyperthetical middleweight. you need to be consistent in your arguments or else you look stupid lol'

Jude



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#366334 - 01/24/08 12:51 PM Re: Sorry Russell Sir- I had to copy this link [Re: kyushoperson]
jude33 Offline
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Registered: 03/14/07
Posts: 1539
I can hardly understand a word you have written.

What a complete mess.

Just one thing. If you have a problem with Russell take it up with him. If from what I can gather you attended a seminar and didnt like it then why didint you tell him?

Better still seen as he is the one your doubting ask him to sparr with you then post your results except this time
make things clearer so people can read it.

Or even better perhaps (your choice) video it.

Jude

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#366335 - 01/24/08 07:47 PM Re: Sorry Russell Sir- I had to copy this link [Re: jude33]
Vennificus Offline
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Registered: 01/21/08
Posts: 206
Loc: The frozen realms of Kah-Nah-D...
this is why dim mak scares me, but its ok,
pressure points don't exist
neither does my spoon apparently...damn bald kid, NOW how am I supposed to eat my cereal?
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#366336 - 01/24/08 10:04 PM Re: Sorry Russell Sir- I had to copy this link [Re: Vennificus]
jude33 Offline
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Registered: 03/14/07
Posts: 1539
Quote:

this is why dim mak scares me, but its ok,
pressure points don't exist
neither does my spoon apparently...damn bald kid, NOW how am I supposed to eat my cereal?




Your talking in riddles.

I would like to repeat myself in case you had difficulty with the last post(s)

If you think pressure point dont exist then you might want to argue that point with someone who feels strongly that they do.

If you dont think a middle weight can hit as hard as a heavyweight can I suggest go and find a boxing gym and sparr with a few. If you can have have someone record it on video. Then post it. That might be interesting.

If you doubt Russels ability then take that it up with Russel. If you attended a seminar and you didnt like it shouldnt you have at least looked at what was on offer before you attended?

It states on your resume your a pacifist? Your webpage seems to be for art. One thing I would like to ask is why would someone claiming to be a pacifist want to know if a someone could be trained to hit like a heavyweight?
Or did you believe that attending a seminar on pressure points was the answer?


Jude







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