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#366322 - 01/21/08 07:31 PM Re: Sorry Russell Sir- I had to copy this link [Re: MatsFondelius]
BrianS Offline
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I don't know who gave you a warm welcome,but it wasn't me.

You obviously have an agenda to push here. I don't like it.

HAPPY HAPPY JOY JOY!!!!
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#366323 - 01/22/08 06:58 AM Re: Sorry Russell Sir- I had to copy this link [Re: BrianS]
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Hi
Here's Russell in the mid 1990's with only a 1st Dan to his name, before he learned any pressure points or knew what a waveform was.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=9qy-UzMNlaI

Here he is a few years later with all these credentials?

OCFM International Coach
6th Dan OCFM
Columnist for the UK's leading Martial Arts Magazines - Martial Arts Illustrated, Combat, Trad Karate
Featured in Mens Health, Mens Fitness, EVO, Autocar, Car and all over the Web
Europe's leading authority on Pressure Points in the Martial Arts.

And a Master ship from who knows where?

Perhaps he can tell us.


http://youtube.com/watch?v=ymgdRXOgi4A

Do you think he's better or worse for all the spin and new age nonesense?

lol I cant tell.

Which pressure points does he use on herol?

where is his waveform power?

He looks scared to me lol

tc

HS

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#366324 - 01/22/08 07:52 AM Re: Sorry Russell Sir- I had to copy this link [Re: kyushoperson]
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not sure. but it does seem that the 'waveform' is a renamed technique. not to be confused with TKD's waveform (the bouncing up and down). It seems this 'waveform' is a renamed double-hip body mechanic using impact training as developed thru Shukokai as hedkikr mentioned. It's good stuff, but why rename it. Everyone needs to make a living, I realize that, but....

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#366325 - 01/22/08 08:15 AM Re: Sorry Russell Sir- I had to copy this link [Re: kyushoperson]
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Quote:

Hi
where is his waveform power?

He looks scared to me lol

tc

HS




I dont know, but that is surely up to him.

I see things like this. Anybody is allowed to market a product. They are allowed to argue their own case.
If I choose to believe it or not is a different matter.

It might be worth your while addressing those points to Russel or someone who knows Russel.


Jude


Edited by jude33 (01/22/08 08:19 AM)

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#366326 - 01/22/08 11:47 AM Re: Sorry Russell Sir- I had to copy this link [Re: BrianS]
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Hi

I thought russell came on here so it was addressed to him or others on here who speak for him?

It was a rhetorical question is that not obvious?

He doesnt use either pp's or the waveform on this clip, or is this another of his comical ones like the pps that dont work?

He says on his site with his method you can punch like heavyweight with his method, it seems to fall short here on herol who was only a middleweight?

I am allowed to ask Q's on here arent I?

hs


Edited by kyushoperson (01/22/08 12:02 PM)

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#366327 - 01/22/08 12:31 PM Re: Sorry Russell Sir- I had to copy this link [Re: kyushoperson]
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Hi
I am not to sure if you are asking Brian or myself the questions.
So if you were asking me then these are my thoughts.
Quote:

Hi
I thought russell came on here so it was addressed to him or others on here who speak for him?




I am not sure if he still does come on here.
Quote:


It was a rhetorical question is that not obvious?




Rhetorical questions encourage the listener to reflect on what is implied.
Not to sure.




He doesnt use either pp's or the waveform on this clip, or is this another of his comical ones like the pps that dont work?




Cant say.




He says on his site with his method you can punch like heavyweight with his method, it seems to fall short here on herol who was only a middleweight?




The video I saw of him with Herol in the ring was of them playing around. I did comment about it but it seems they werent meant to be sparring.

If he states with his method a person can end up punching like a heavyweight then I suppose it would depend on which heavyweight he meant.I think the statemeant has to many variables.
I would however be interested in what he or others undestand as wave form. I understand Ed has some experience
with double hip movement.

Jude


Edited by jude33 (01/22/08 12:32 PM)

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#366328 - 01/22/08 02:47 PM Re: Sorry Russell Sir- I had to copy this link [Re: jude33]
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only trained for a few years in Kimura-Shukokai in the late 80's when Kimura sensei was living in NJ. 'double-hip' actually goes back and was developed by his sensei, Master Tani (who was a student of Mabuni Kenwa).

it's a power generation method optimized for medium to long-range contact sparring. the training method is impact training with materials and method that was pioneered by Kimura.



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#366329 - 01/23/08 02:06 AM Re: Sorry Russell Sir- I had to copy this link [Re: kyushoperson]
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Quote:

Hi

I thought russell came on here so it was addressed to him or others on here who speak for him?
Quote:



He has been here and I'm sure he or his other kronies trying to sell his stuff will be back sooner or later.

[quote}It was a rhetorical question is that not obvious?




ummmm...no?

Quote:

He doesnt use either pp's or the waveform on this clip, or is this another of his comical ones like the pps that dont work?

He says on his site with his method you can punch like heavyweight with his method, it seems to fall short here on herol who was only a middleweight?




Claims that sell? I know heavyweights that can't hit very hard,so it's hard to disprove, isn't it?

Quote:

I am allowed to ask Q's on here arent I?

hs




Absofrigginlutely!!!

BTW, who are you?
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#366330 - 01/23/08 06:20 AM Re: Sorry Russell Sir- I had to copy this link [Re: Ed_Morris]
kyushoperson Offline
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Posts: 12
Loc: North England
Hi

Russell says what he does is different from the double hip.

These were the only examples of him actually doing something akin to 'sparring' I
could find the rest of his clips are him hitting or pushing a much smaller guy who stands in front of him and lets him.

In this sparring clip he uses neither pressure points nor the waveform,that was my whole point.

The fact he obviously isnt using them is why i thought youd realise they were rhetorical questions?


tc

HS

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#366331 - 01/24/08 06:01 AM Re: Sorry Russell Sir- I had to copy this link [Re: jude33]
kyushoperson Offline
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Registered: 01/22/08
Posts: 12
Loc: North England
Quote:

Hi
I am not to sure if you are asking Brian or myself the questions.
So if you were asking me then these are my thoughts.
Quote:

Hi
I thought russell came on here so it was addressed to him or others on here who speak for him?




I am not sure if he still does come on here.
Quote:


It was a rhetorical question is that not obvious?




Rhetorical questions encourage the listener to reflect on what is implied.
Not to sure.




He doesnt use either pp's or the waveform on this clip, or is this another of his comical ones like the pps that dont work?




Cant say.




He says on his site with his method you can punch like heavyweight with his method, it seems to fall short here on herol who was only a middleweight?




The video I saw of him with Herol in the ring was of them playing around. I did comment about it but it seems they werent meant to be sparring.

If he states with his method a person can end up punching like a heavyweight then I suppose it would depend on which heavyweight he meant.I think the statemeant has to many variables.
I would however be interested in what he or others undestand as wave form. I understand Ed has some experience
with double hip movement.

Jude




Hi jude


Hes not sparring you say? him and herol are in a ring with gloves on hitting each other, what do you call that?

So you're saying when he says you can hit like a heavyweight, he means one who hits really weakly even softer than a middleweight?

He really should make that more clear. I've never seen a heavyweight who couldnt beat a middle weight lol

tc

HS

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