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#366222 - 10/18/07 12:21 PM Sorry Russell Sir- I had to copy this link
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Russell Stutely posted this on Kyusho space and I just laughed. I thought this site's audience might enjoy it too so I copied the link. I hope this is OK with Master Stutely.

http://www.martialartsyoutube.com/view_video.php?viewkey=d5072bb1864cdee4d3d6


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#366223 - 10/18/07 07:51 PM Re: Sorry Russell Sir- I had to copy this link [Re: underdog]
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So laying there doing nothing is resisting?

Not really conclusive, although I can see where that stuff may work against very inexperienced grapplers.
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#366224 - 10/23/07 07:12 PM Re: Sorry Russell Sir- I had to copy this link [Re: MattJ]
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work against inexperienced grapplers? I promise that if you bring your experienced grappler, and he comes in for his double leg take down, I'll hit gall bladder 20 and we'll see when he wakes up

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#366225 - 10/23/07 10:27 PM Re: Sorry Russell Sir- I had to copy this link [Re: winterwarrior]
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work against inexperienced grapplers? I promise that if you bring your experienced grappler, and he comes in for his double leg take down, I'll hit gall bladder 20 and we'll see when he wakes up




Tell ya what, bunky. Why don't you walk in to your nearest BJJ school with a video camera, challenge a purple belt to get a takedown on you before you can KO him, and find out for yourself?
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#366226 - 10/23/07 10:45 PM Re: Sorry Russell Sir- I had to copy this link [Re: MattJ]
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Quote:

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work against inexperienced grapplers? I promise that if you bring your experienced grappler, and he comes in for his double leg take down, I'll hit gall bladder 20 and we'll see when he wakes up




Tell ya what, bunky. Why don't you walk in to your nearest BJJ school with a video camera, challenge a purple belt to get a takedown on you before you can KO him, and find out for yourself?




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#366227 - 10/23/07 11:34 PM Re: Sorry Russell Sir- I had to copy this link [Re: BrianS]
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i don't see how someone can say the pressure points don't work.. now i dont' know anything about grappling.. but i do know what all the pressure points feel like, and i know that if while grappling if you have one free hand to do the pressure point, it's gonna hurt your opponent like hell.. so wouldn't that pain make them let go of whatever they were doing?

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#366228 - 10/24/07 01:08 AM Re: Sorry Russell Sir- I had to copy this link [Re: karate_popo]
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i don't see how someone can say the pressure points don't work.. now i dont' know anything about grappling.. but i do know what all the pressure points feel like, and i know that if while grappling if you have one free hand to do the pressure point, it's gonna hurt your opponent like hell.. so wouldn't that pain make them let go of whatever they were doing?




That, or it may make them break what ever they are holding. Only one way to find out karate popo.
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#366229 - 10/24/07 07:09 AM Re: Sorry Russell Sir- I had to copy this link [Re: BrianS]
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all i know is pressure points hurt like hell.. just like the guy in the video..

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#366230 - 10/24/07 11:13 AM Re: Sorry Russell Sir- I had to copy this link [Re: karate_popo]
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popo -

I am not debating the PP strikes hurt. What I am debating is how easily you will be able to do them when the opponent is actually resisting, and not just letting you hit them. An experienced grappler will not just lay there like that.
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#366231 - 10/24/07 11:53 AM Re: Sorry Russell Sir- I had to copy this link [Re: MattJ]
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I have seen experienced grapplers dig an elbow into Sp 11 to break a guard in the context of doing their other good stuff. Maybe it isn't a question of all or nothing. Maybe it is that pressure points assist what are otherwise good techniques and make them better. I would not say use pressure points in isolation without regard to good martial arts techniques.

I'd suggest instead to take a look at some technques that are working well and maybe some that seem to need a little something, and see if pressure point applications improve them.

If not, fine. The forum is about being open minded and learning from each other and sharing ideas. You take what you can use and leave the rest. It is not necessary to agree. Just disagree respectfully. Otherwise, the forum has a hostile tenor and it is difficult for people to feel comfortable about posting questions for fear that more knowledgeable people will ridicule them.

Be nice.
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