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#366077 - 11/08/07 05:11 PM Re: Bunkai Methods....................? [Re: Ed_Morris]
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You said you don't apply your bunkai training in full contact sparring.



??? - where did I write that? I think you misunderstood the gist of what I was writing.




Yeah Ed, your right. I thought you were referring to bunkai in general, but you were actually referring to using techniques that you saw on youtube. My mistake.
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#366078 - 11/09/07 06:46 PM Re: Bunkai Methods....................? [Re: MattJ]
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In addition, I don't go to grappling seminars, I have always grappled since I started karate.




http://www.fightingarts.com/ubbthreads/s...page=0&vc=1







OOOOOHHHHHHH!!!! You're soooo busted!!! LOL!
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#366079 - 11/11/07 10:11 AM Re: Bunkai Methods....................? [Re: BrianS]
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You are so unkind; there are seminars I've attended which I rather not disclose
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#366080 - 11/11/07 04:44 PM Re: Bunkai Methods....................? [Re: ButterflyPalm]
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You are so unkind; there are seminars I've attended which I rather not disclose




Its not that I didn't want to disclose it, hell, I posted that I attended the seminars. The response I made was more in response to Eds assertion about people attending seminars to get their grappling skills and interpretations. That's okay for some, but I got mine from my instructor. In fact, I took BJJ for a couple of months to see what they do and how what I do matches up against it. Relson came when I was there so I went. For me its all about training with different guys to see what works and what does not. In fact, I left because I didn't like what they do in BJJ. That's probably why it I didn't remeber that I had gone when I was writing the post. Its okay for some, but just not my cup of "Ti". I train and teach grappling skill which is much more than simply BJJ. Standing or on the ground its about getting in a good position. Bunkai of kata is about placing your body in a good position from which to fight. That's what tai sabaki is all about. Lying on your back is not a good position from which to fight. I personally work on and teach how to get up if you get put or pinned down.
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#366081 - 11/12/07 09:13 PM Re: Bunkai Methods....................? [Re: medulanet]
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I think you missed the joke.

I didn't say those were martial arts related seminars
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#366082 - 11/14/07 07:30 PM Re: Bunkai Methods....................? [Re: jude33]
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I checked out the 5 seisan bunkai videos. My initial impressions: the first 3 are fine if a little basic.

The fourth one, where the opponent's arm is leveraged on the shoulder? There's better ways. Personally I like to leverage the opponent's head with my lead arm while locking his arm against my chest. Horizontal rather than vertical. Works better when there's a significant height difference.

The fifth one requires poor reaction from the opponent to allow his lead arm to be manipulated in that rather slow circle.

The Didier Lupo videos (I just watched the first and last) are excellent. And yes, when I watch another style I try to find similarities to Isshinryu or new ideas I can incorporate. For example, the Nijushiho kata in the firts Didier video, a form which I'd never seen before, has quite a few themes found in our Chinto, Sanchin and Sunusu katas.


Edited by Ironfoot (11/14/07 07:49 PM)
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#366083 - 11/15/07 03:03 PM Re: Bunkai Methods....................? [Re: Ironfoot]
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There are some great katas at this loc. http://youtube.com/watch?v=H9UrMOPVHW4

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#366084 - 11/15/07 05:01 PM Re: Bunkai Methods....................? [Re: Ironfoot]
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Hi
Sounds like a good analysis.
I am still going over them.
Havent had much time just now.

Jude.

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#366085 - 11/15/07 07:17 PM Re: Bunkai Methods....................? [Re: truth]
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Thanks for the post, truth. The first kata was excellent, and the last was very, very good. The Gogishiho (2nd) kata was very interesting since it varied wildly from the version ALMOST included in Isshinryu's syllabus. From what I've heard, Shimabuku was teaching it to his senior students until he felt they were ignoring his own creation, Sunusu, for it. Not sure if the version I've seen my sensei do is from Goju, Shorin or what. The bo kata, Tokomeini no Kun, is exactly the way Isshinryu teaches it, unless you want to get nit-picky about the height of the block/strike with the center of the bo, or the size of the circular sweeps done soon after.
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#366086 - 11/15/07 08:12 PM Re: Bunkai Methods....................? [Re: Ironfoot]
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Your very welcome ironfoot. I was very impressed with that first kata also it was flawless...

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