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#363701 - 10/08/07 04:23 PM Re: What are YOUR 'karate credentials'? [Re: Ironfoot]
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What I like about our animal class is that its an open format, you are not in Gi or Belt, you are in jeans and T-shirt or a jogging suit. The proof of rank is in the pudding most people with skill and tenacity comes to the top. You are not working with just your student most people barely know you at times. But after a short while people know who each fighter is and what he is capable of.

Rank is important to the organizational chart of a system structure of a class and grading process. And who it comes from is important if you actually trained and bare some resemblances to the Instructors techniques. But if one gets rank in a manner suggested above its just wallpaper and advertisement for someone else accomplishments. Karate Credentials should be done on a individual scale base on all these factors discussed.

Usually if you know the Sensei, you know what to expect from his students. This is true I believe.

#363702 - 10/10/07 09:19 AM Re: What are YOUR 'karate credentials'? [Re: Neko456]
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Well put, Neko. You've got to prove it every day. If I go trotting my obi into another dojo, I should show commenserate skill. It doesn't take long for people to realize the true pecking order.

#363703 - 10/11/07 07:17 AM Re: What are YOUR 'karate credentials'? [Re: Ironfoot]
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#363704 - 11/03/07 10:23 PM Re: What are YOUR 'karate credentials'? [Re: shoshinkan]
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Very interesting topic but the question has not been answer yet!! At least that is what I think!1

1. I believe lineage is important in the sense that it would indicate who you have trained with. When one denies our teachers or when one learned from well, pretty much that speaks a lot about you. Many out there are 10 DAN's but they never say where they learned. Some self appointed their 10th Dan. In todays age of internet one can find out almost inmediately who you trained with. Fraud?

2. 10th Dan? Well only in those who adopted the Japanese system of grading but how about those who do not use belt ranking? !0th Dan and only 50 years old with only 30 years of training?? Pretty shady there!!!

3. I would ask about the moves!! Any 5th dan or above should be able to explain a move clearly and have many applications for those moves.

So for me would be who did you trained under? How long? Yes they are going to give me the whole paper deal here by now. If it's one of those newly created arts then it would be who did he trained under and for how long?

What is the purpose of my training? Getting medals and trophies or actually learning the intricacies of the bodies and it's weaknesses and ideal areas to hit.

How much do they charge per month? Check the other schools. How many classes for that price? Are they pushing a name as they try to convince you to sign up? HOw many black belts do they have? How long it takes to become one? Age restrictions to become a blackbelt?

Yes I do and have asked all these questions before. I do not want to waste my time. Like I did before!

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