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#363430 - 10/01/07 02:07 PM "Intercepting"
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Jeet Kune Do..."Way of the Intercepting Fist"

I love the fact that JKD uses an 'intercepting' philosophy, but what exactly are we intercepting?

I am sure it is much more than a 'fist'...

"Sorry if the topics I am posting have already been covered here I am new to the forum and have not yet had a chance to review all the threads".

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#363431 - 10/01/07 02:19 PM Re: "Intercepting" [Re: Totality]
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Ya know, Bruce didn't really want to limit intercepting to just the "fists". He said it could be the way of intercepting foot as well.

I think (and this is my opinion), that when we're talking about intercepting, we're talking about movement itself - any offensive movement and thus the opponent himself.

And while that's all good, remember that "its just a name". I mean, I doubt I have to point out that its not always possible to "intercept". Sometimes you have to flow with the go (Rickson Gracie) and take whats given.


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#363432 - 10/01/07 02:33 PM Re: "Intercepting" [Re: JKogas]
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Hi John,

Your right about the opponent himself, but it's more than just movement we can intercept.

On the streets (not ring or cage) there are 3 things that can be intercepted.

Any ideas??
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#363433 - 10/01/07 07:51 PM Re: "Intercepting" [Re: Totality]
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Streets as opposed to the ring or cage eh? I have NO idea where you're going with this so lay it on me.

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#363434 - 10/01/07 08:35 PM Re: "Intercepting" [Re: Totality]
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Quote:

Hi John,

Your right about the opponent himself, but it's more than just movement we can intercept.




I'm pretty sure that Bruce was only referring to movement, but I am interested to hear what else you are talking about.
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#363435 - 10/02/07 11:46 AM Re: "Intercepting" [Re: Totality]
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I see it as different on the street I don't practice intercepting his in-coming technique as the primary method, I practice intercepting his intent, I'm saying at a certain range the slightest aggresive movement toward me. Could be a shoulder or head motion, could be his mouth positioning to spit, could be any motion I don't like.

In the ring or training its the slightest limb motion, actually contact with the limb is 2ndary if I can jam & hit him before he get off.

Everybodies interpetation of it is different, mines is keep it simple and safe for me. Now you get man I wasn't gonna hit you, and I can apologize even pick him backup, maybe. But I didn't get hit or hurt, I'm the innocent in my mind, thinking why was he so close and talking sh^%^.

Thats intercepting to Me. I don't need 3 things.


Edited by Neko456 (10/02/07 11:50 AM)
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#363436 - 10/02/07 12:06 PM Re: "Intercepting" [Re: Neko456]
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Neko -

Certainly, interception goes beyond "technique". You can intercept practically anything from, sensing trouble and leaving to even "verbal" interception where we are able to de-escalate/diffuse a potentially violent situation just by talking to someone.

There was just no way I was going to be able to guess the "three" interceptable" things that "Totality" was laying out. I'd like to know what his ideas were.


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#363437 - 10/02/07 12:35 PM Re: "Intercepting" [Re: JKogas]
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I agree but I was just clearing the air that 3 things are not needed, making it work is what counts and u don't need to worry about checking/deflecting/blocking nothing, it might be too late.

I'd like to hear the 3 things that can be intercepted also. But I don't think it will change my view, but it might, I'm alway open to learn.


Edited by Neko456 (10/02/07 12:38 PM)
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#363438 - 10/02/07 03:06 PM Re: "Intercepting" [Re: Neko456]
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Keeping with the spirit of simplicity, the three things I am referring too are:

1. INTENT
2. PREPERATION
3. EXECUTION

Examples on each;

"INTENT" is usually verbal or gestured ("I'm gonna kick your A@#" or sliding fingers across their throat like a knife, clenching teeth or the thousand mile glare)etc... I know his intent is to cause harm and I can intercept him there.

"PREPERATION" is getting into a fighting stance or raising their hands, making fists etc... He is preparing to do me harm and I can intercept him there.

"EXECUTION" would be the obvious, taking a swing, kick, trying to grab me, shooting in etc.... He is trying to do me harm and I can intercept that also. This would be on going interception throughout the altercation.


These are three things that can be intercepted or if you like and how I teach my students, "Three points in time in which interception is possible".

As for ring or sport fighting, there is only one thing that can be intercepted....Execution! I already know his intent before he even steps into the ring. When we face off from each other we are already prepared in fighting position waiting on the referee to say "FIGHT" so I can't intercept him there either. I can only wait till he executes his movements before I can intercept him, whether it would be ring position or actual techniques.

Thanks,
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#363439 - 10/02/07 03:16 PM Re: "Intercepting" [Re: Totality]
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Okay I may still be a begginer, but on one of the videos that I have fro Paul Vunak PFS, he goes over the three things people fear. Techniques wise, he broke it down as before, durring and after.

Three points in time to attack.

Hit before your opponent. Kind of like using intuition or just your basic perception that this person will attack.

Hit during the attack. Kind of like jab for jab type of thing. Or it can be an interception with a jab or destruction with jab.

And finally after, which is dodging or evading the attack and then counter attacking.

Is this what you mean? This of course is just the physical moments of attack, as mentioned above it can mean anything to anyone, and martial artist I bet have come up with all sorts of ideas.
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