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#363325 - 10/02/07 01:36 PM Re: (if) I did it - Confession from the killer [Re: RazorFoot]
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I deal with things in similar manner Scottie.

That would be a hard situtation to deal with. Mainly because I think anthing you do would provoke him. I say that because it is obvious that he has serious rage issues.
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#363326 - 10/02/07 04:16 PM Re: (if) I did it - Confession from the killer [Re: JasonM]
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If it were me then & there, I'd probably suffer the same fate but I'll play along.

It's a good time to utilize an improvised weapon - belt comes to mind because I always wear one. Go on the offensive by either snapping the belt or try to hit him w/ the buckle. I know it's not going to injure him but hopefully I have the forethought to take-out his arthritic knees & stay away from/control the blade.

All this time I'll be screaming my head off "Fire,fire..."

In reality, I'm rarely w/o my SOG Flash II (quick-open 3 1/4" lockblade) so hopefully I'd have more of a fighting chance.

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#363327 - 10/05/07 01:03 AM Re: (if) I did it - Confession from the killer [Re: hedkikr]
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Well, we probably won't be outrunning the "Juice" so I would probably back out slowly (just like I would a growling dog) and look for an improvished weapon (i.e. rock) to help in the fight. After that, only time will tell and you hope to live.

My best bet would be to accept some wounds as I go for his throat. Not a situation anybody wants to be in ... definitely a nightmare.

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#363328 - 10/10/07 08:40 AM Re: (if) I did it - Confession from the killer [Re: CatnPhx]
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You mention the only additional thing that went through my mind when I read Cord's an Scott's posts. And it's that I would attempt as hard as I could to inflict a permanent, serious and visible injury to the attacker. In my case, though, I'd go for his eyes with the intent to blind at least one. In addition to the obvious advantages if I have the crazy luck to pull it off without getting killed or maimed in the process, if I'm going to go down, "while he has dinner, I'll have a sandwich". Besides, try telling the cops you had nothing to do with any kind of violence when your eye is hanging on your cheek from it's optical nerve!
BTW, O.J.'s cynical arrogance is breathtaking, isn't it???!!!
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#363329 - 10/10/07 01:59 PM Re: (if) I did it - Confession from the killer [Re: RazorFoot]
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Ok in the origonal post it said "Fairly thick foelage on both sides of the walkway"

I would try to use the foleage as a barrier or means of escape, it would at least make it harder for him to attack me, and may just even the odds as we would both be fighting in/through the foleage.

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#363330 - 10/12/07 08:12 AM Re: (if) I did it - Confession from the killer [Re: ChangLab]
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Ok in the origonal post it said "Fairly thick foelage on both sides of the walkway"

I would try to use the foleage as a barrier or means of escape, it would at least make it harder for him to attack me, and may just even the odds as we would both be fighting in/through the foleage.




If he is referring to thick, dense, boxwood hedges, there is no going through them. As a child, I used to try to go through them while playing with my siblings and it is dam near impossible because of how thickly branched they are. If they are 6 to 8 feet tall, you are screwed. Better luck going over than through them.

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#363331 - 11/26/07 10:12 AM Re: (if) I did it - Confession from the killer [Re: RazorFoot]
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#363332 - 11/26/07 11:31 AM Re: (if) I did it - Confession from the killer [Re: TheWolf]
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#363333 - 11/26/07 03:32 PM Re: (if) I did it - Confession from the killer [Re: Zombie Zero]
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My best friend Joes dad was like the 4th squad car down in the attempt to chase him down. Anyway, I' keep an eye on him, back away slowly, all the while looking for potential weapons; I.E. large rocks, a stick, gravel to blind him, mud to blind him, the whole belt deal, or if I'm wearing a very thick jacket I'd wrap it aorund one arm tightly and use it as a sort of shield agaisnt the knife which could at least provide a few slashes worth of protection I'd think. Then attack as aggressively as possible. And probably still die.
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#363334 - 11/26/07 08:26 PM Re: (if) I did it - Confession from the killer [Re: Stormdragon]
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if I'm wearing a very thick jacket I'd wrap it aorund one arm tightly and use it as a sort of shield agaisnt the knife which could at least provide a few slashes worth of protection I'd think. Then attack as aggressively as possible. And probably still die.




That's a good basic plan, but the devil's in the details... If you can prevent getting cut in the first place, that's the best plan, but depending on how much maneuvering room you have, your plan may come to the front. The second part of that is to know where to go WHILE YOU'RE DEFENDING... strikes to the eyes, throat, groin, and especially the knees... if you have a clean shot at their chin with a palm heel strike, drive their head straight up and lift them off the ground if you can.

In Aikido, we have one technique, Gokyo, that is specifically designed to control a knife attack, and if you're adept at using it, it would be an option as well... but be sure you do as much damage after you redirect the knife as you can... because he's not going to stop. Break elbows, knees, or his neck. My jujutsu training would have me heading for whatever "soft parts" were exposed, and breaking the most accessible joints.

The mindset has to be "kill him... and do it now... " not, "how am I going to defend myself?" Chances are you're going to get cut or killed... so you have to change the equation.

If it had been me in that walkway, he would have found out he'd brought a knife to a gunfight... and he wouldn't be taunting the U.S. justice system with his book about "IF I did it..." The headlines would have read "Football superstar killed by old man with bad hip..."

... "a .40 caliber hole in the center of his chest will obscure the ability of (you know who) to claim self defense in his latest attempt at mahem...".

Remember what the one armed sheriff's deputy said in "Unforgiven".... "I don't want to get killed for a lack of shootin' back..."

That's what concealed carry permits are for...

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