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#362926 - 09/27/07 10:10 AM Re: Fight objective? [Re: MASTERforge]
MattJ Offline
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Registered: 11/25/04
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Loc: York PA. USA

I disagree. Going to ground as soon as possible is really not a good idea. Especially if the other guy has any friends around him.

While you are showing off your latest BJJ move his buddies are lining up to stomp on your head.

Thanks so much for your little anti-BJJ tirade, but what the hell are you talking about? I don't see anywhere that Christie mentioned taking anyone to the ground.
"In case you ever wondered what it's like to be knocked out, it's like waking up from a nightmare only to discover it wasn't a dream." -Forrest Griffin

#362927 - 09/28/07 12:19 PM Re: Fight objective? [Re: MattJ]
MattJ Offline
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Anybody else? Looking for specifics, too.
"In case you ever wondered what it's like to be knocked out, it's like waking up from a nightmare only to discover it wasn't a dream." -Forrest Griffin

#362928 - 09/28/07 12:33 PM Re: Fight objective? [Re: MattJ]
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Real confrontation: Create an escape route and use it. Not possible, get to the back, KHTFO by any means available.

Practice or competition: Use footwork to get to back, upset his base, submit or control through combination of chokes/strikes/joint locks (BJJ or Chin Na).

That's all I got,

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#362929 - 09/29/07 05:45 AM Re: Fight objective? [Re: RazorFoot]
Leo_E_49 Offline
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Well, in general, I try to find and exploit my opponents openings and weaknesses. For example, if they are poor at striking, I'll use striking and vice versa. In the case that my opponent doesn't show any weaknesses or any openings, I create them through various sneaky tactics. As such, my tactics vary from poking at my opponent's defenses, to feinting strikes and other deception, to charging in full speed when I think it's appropriate. I suppose my biggest weakness here is poor judgment in what strategy to use; in my own instructor's words, the thing I lack most is experience.

I suppose I use this approach because it's the way I've always been trained, my instructors have always tended to think in the same way I do. Most people who I train with think I'm just plain mean hearted.

In terms of self defense, I am of the belief that prevention is better than cure.


My main objective is surprise. If they don't see it coming, they can't defend and its all over before it began. If you know its going to happen, get in first and fast.

The good ol' sucker punch huh? Subtle.

Edited by Leo_E_49 (09/29/07 05:48 AM)
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#362930 - 09/29/07 10:03 PM Re: Fight objective? [Re: Leo_E_49]
JKogas Offline

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Great job there MASTERforge, lol!

(Don't you just love it when noobs ZOOM in from Oblivion, slam something that probably don't have the slightest clue about and then zoom back off? I know I do!)

Next time MASTERforge, make sure you specify who you are talking to. Then when you're responding, also make sure that it has something remotely to do with the thread (maybe)! And and in the process, try not to lay blanket statements down on folks, k?

Thanks. Have a great life.


#362931 - 09/30/07 05:17 AM Re: Fight objective? [Re: MASTERforge]
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Registered: 01/13/05
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Loc: Cambridge UK.

Ask any night club bouncer if they would want to take a person down to the ground. There is too much risk and you are an easy target there.

That is entirely dependant on how many are in the security team, and their proximity to the situation. Good security teams dont technically 'fight' anyone, they 'wrap em up and throw em out'. The whole idea is to limit danger and inconvenience to the decent people who are in the premises. Given the choice between a running battle with fists and glasses flying, and grounding a guy and waiting for support from colleagues to remove him with little fuss, I know which one works better.
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