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#361588 - 09/19/07 03:30 PM Re: Dojo's in my area [Re: BrianS]
Joss Offline

Registered: 01/18/06
Posts: 567
Interesting idea, the judo. Makes a lot of sense.

I think the sacrifice to get into the "right" school is a tiny bit premature at 6. I'd want mine getting into a reasonably decent program that's close, to clarify that this is a deep desire that has some committment to it. I didn't start MA till I was in my late forties. So I figure a kid at six has a few months that can be spared just seeing if this MA stuff is real deal for them.

#361589 - 09/19/07 03:41 PM Re: Dojo's in my area [Re: JasonM]
Malmo Offline

Registered: 09/19/07
Posts: 3
True martial arts explores all aspects that are involved in the exploration of the arts. It does not confine itself to one subset of ideas or techniques - ie kicking, grappling, kata. It explores all areas including weaponry, medicine, healing...

As for kata, I did not dismiss it. I stated that we are not a Japanese school. A simple oversite when reading a post is what leads to confusion.

Forms of any kind should be alive and ever changing. To force yourself to repeat the exact same movements without consideration of energy and the impossible task of performing the exact same punch over and over limits yourself to what I described. Absolutely, the applications of all martial arts are found in forms, but it is because it is found in movement and applied through feeling.

As for lineage, the two men whom I consider my greatest teachers are Grandmaster Ernesto A. Presas and Uncle Willem de Thouars.

#361590 - 09/19/07 03:49 PM Re: Dojo's in my area [Re: Malmo]
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#361591 - 09/19/07 03:53 PM Re: Dojo's in my area [Re: BrianS]
Neko456 Offline
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Registered: 01/18/05
Posts: 3260
Loc: Midwest City, Ok, USA
I like Joss's idea and I'll add take him around to different dojos have him look at the program maybe take the free course then decided at the end of your survey which he likes. Usually the class he likes is the one he'll committ to. You use your MA experience to judge was it a good MA class? or a fun class? or had cute little girls in it?

The idea that Judo is safer and that it has two men routines/katas makes alot of sense. Wrestling would be a program thats also has alot of two men drills with more of western flair without a Gi. Judo does have a safety factor and teaches dojo ethics.

The tumbling and breakfalls are a favorite of kids but of course most Karate or self defense programs offer this now.
Of course good Karate does teach how not to get punched in the face, so does Judo but you lose the saftey factor.

All the Marital Arts are good but Which does he want to committ to? If he doesn't like it Even THE TRUE MARTIAL ARTS that MR. MALMO (U did this to yourself Mr.M), mentioned he won't stay with.

Edited by Neko456 (09/19/07 03:56 PM)

#361592 - 09/19/07 03:59 PM Re: Dojo's in my area [Re: Malmo]
oldman Offline
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Registered: 07/28/04
Posts: 5884
Thank you.

#361593 - 09/19/07 04:56 PM Re: Dojo's in my area [Re: oldman]
cxt Offline
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Registered: 09/11/03
Posts: 5849
Loc: USA
In regards to Mr. Malmo--off his website.

"World Head of Family Sokeship Council."


Also not sure that I would be so quick to point out that I have taught "3 year olds" in my classes......I suppose that one is never too young to start learning.....but still--3 years old?

Also was not aware that either Kun Tao or Pencak Silat used the Japanese kyu/dan ranking system--weird. quote:

"Holds certification to teach 2 DOZEN SEPERATE (emp mine) martial arts styles."

24 SEPERATE MARTIAL ARTS SYSTEMS---and good enough to teach ALL of them.


Lets work the math a bit.

There are 24 hours in a day---8 of which you spend working, or at school, then you factor in sleep--lets say 6 hours, another 1 total either eating or having a lunch break etc.

So out of 24 hours you have what 9 hours at best to train in a given day-assuming that nothing else gets in the way/comes up and you train non-stop.

(from the there its pretty easy math on terms of years and decades)

So a given person has mastered--to the point of being able to teach--"two dozen seperate martial arts."

Add in that by traditioanl standards it might take 14 years or so to reach the rank of 4th degree in ONE system.
What would it take to learn "2 dozen SEPERATE" systems?

I don't know......something is not adding up here.

Edited by cxt (09/19/07 05:26 PM)

#361594 - 09/19/07 05:51 PM Re: Dojo's in my area [Re: Malmo]
BrianS Offline
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Registered: 11/04/05
Posts: 5959
Loc: Northwest Arkansas
Hello Mr.Malmo. Thanks for visiting our site.

After viewing your posts I have decided not to even check out your school. You have made my mind up for me, I'm not impressed.

Instead of just stating what you do, you decided to badmouth another school's reputation however true it may be.

I am completely capable and knowledgeable enough to know what kata is and isn't and what it takes to have a complete system. I feel what I do is complete(excluding weapons). We just don't have a kids program. Your view is clear. Thankyou for your time.

Anyway......I have not heard back from the Judo place after emailing him, maybe he closed up shop???

Here is another place.

What do you guys think? I think Butterflypalm was right. I need something I can relate to and help him work with.

Thanks guys!!
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#361595 - 09/19/07 06:06 PM Re: Dojo's in my area [Re: BrianS]
fastfist1 Offline

Registered: 09/16/07
Posts: 12
Loc: Illinois - USA
I agree with Butterflypalm's assessment. The schools where my daughter goes/went have the same basic basic tenants, kihon, and body mechanics that I adhere to. So, when she was 6, and even now I can explain why and how to do something in a way that, while different from her instructors explaination, still points her in the same direction. And actually she generally hears the same (almost verbatim) decriptions and phrases from me that she hears in class.

It's been a great way to have special time with her for almost 5 years and I'm sure you will get the same gratification with your son.


#361596 - 09/19/07 06:22 PM Re: Dojo's in my area [Re: fastfist1]
MattJ Offline
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Registered: 11/25/04
Posts: 15634
Loc: York PA. USA
So.....fastfist1 and Brian hate judo. Check.

"In case you ever wondered what it's like to be knocked out, it's like waking up from a nightmare only to discover it wasn't a dream." -Forrest Griffin

#361597 - 09/19/07 06:24 PM Re: Dojo's in my area [Re: fastfist1]
BrianS Offline
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Registered: 11/04/05
Posts: 5959
Loc: Northwest Arkansas

Thanks for the input and sorry for the misunderstanding.


No,but Kempo sucks.

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