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#361425 - 09/18/07 12:09 AM methods for developing short-range power
Ed_Morris Offline
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what are your methods for developing short power? if you want to think 1" punch, no problem, but I'm interested in the method YOU use to refine this skill: non-chambered short-range strikes.

speaking in terms of concepts are fine, as long as they aren't ONLY concepts to you, but actual demonstratable decent power generation that you can actually do....would be the most useful to the thread's topic.

All Art perspectives invited. I just used this area as the most likely to generate response.

thanks in advance.

#361426 - 09/18/07 02:19 AM Re: methods for developing short-range power [Re: Ed_Morris]
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just work everything big to medium to small.
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#361427 - 09/18/07 06:19 AM Re: methods for developing short-range power [Re: ashe_higgs]
WhiteDragon11 Offline

Registered: 05/02/07
Posts: 1165
Loc: Florida, United States
Well dont worry about your arm strength as you do the technique of the punch. Using your hips and keeping your punch in close adds a lot of power.

And like Ashe said practice everything. Eventually you will pick it up.

#361428 - 09/18/07 07:24 AM Re: methods for developing short-range power [Re: Ed_Morris]
Usenthemighty Offline

Registered: 07/25/07
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Loc: Nash hood , TN
I practice turning my hips before my shoulders, while keeping my elbow down and wrist straight. My method hits on getting my waist/ shoulder rotation speed up.

#361429 - 09/18/07 09:18 AM Re: methods for developing short-range power [Re: ashe_higgs]
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exaggurating and refining...general to specific. pretty much the method of learning anything.

#361430 - 09/18/07 09:24 AM Re: methods for developing short-range power [Re: WhiteDragon11]
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I think if you actually trained it, you'd know that a short range strike isn't about 'keeping your arm' anywhere - it's generating a decent hit from whrerever your hand/arm may be at the time - without chambering and without time consuming hip action or any kind of wind-up.

c'mon folks, you can do better than this. please note in the opening post, that the prerequisite to answering is that you have actually trained it and know what I'm talking about.

#361431 - 09/18/07 09:29 AM Re: methods for developing short-range power [Re: Ed_Morris]
harlan Offline
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Just a beginner question: I don't know this 'one inch punch' you refer to...but as a beginner my tendency is to consider all punches/movement start from the feet/rooting.

Is 'striking from any point' really divorced from rooting?

#361432 - 09/18/07 10:23 AM Re: methods for developing short-range power [Re: Ed_Morris]
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AKK used the concept of "point of origin". This means being able to throw a strike from any hand position, chambered or not. We rely on hip torque and body weight transfer (dropping and launching forward or backwards) primarily.

We also trained to progressively "shorten" the limbs, if the "primary" weapon was jammed ie; punch becomes elbow, elbow becomes shoulder, kick becomes knee, etc.

Edited by MattJ (09/18/07 10:26 AM)
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#361433 - 09/18/07 01:16 PM Re: methods for developing short-range power [Re: Ed_Morris]
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Hip torque/koshi twisting, sinking or rising, well developed base, forward thrust of hip/koshi/bodyweight, and relaxation are all key. However, I have learned one of the most important principles is also the way to develop whipping power. Yes strike from whatever position your hand is in, however, the key is that your hand follows your hip and not the other way around. Hips move hand stays until hips stop, then hand explodes out. Acutally, this is why chambered striking in jigotai(horse stance) is good. It really teaches this principle. Along with a few others. This is a way to develop explosive short range stopping power.
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#361434 - 09/18/07 03:22 PM Re: methods for developing short-range power [Re: medulanet]
butterfly Offline
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I do happen to agree about the whipping action! Don't happen to agree about training horse stance chambered punches to get there. But, each to his own....

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