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#360958 - 09/20/07 08:01 PM Re: Are the snap technique of old Karate useless? [Re: hedkikr]
wristtwister Offline
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Registered: 02/14/06
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Loc: South Carolina
Interesting how every one of the attackers knew exactly what limb to move and how many times to move it before Dr. Yeung either threw them or caused them to fall down, isn't it? That would have to be some choreography!

I'm not much on the "chi ball" circuit, but I find it interesting when someone like him is attacked and the attackers all are responded to differently and "action" differently from the chi application. Over the years, I've done a lot of training, but none of it was to teach me how to respond to chi application, other than blending in Aikido and jujutsu; so who can explain this without either saying chi doesn't exist, or that chi does exist but you can't make people do these things using it?

Interesting video, Hedkikr...

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#360959 - 09/20/07 09:29 PM Re: Are the snap technique of old Karate useless? [Re: hedkikr]
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two words that destroy these demos, hedkikr:
"Randi challenge" 'nuff said.

the only person that could move another person without touching them is Cord and his scarry puppet.

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#360960 - 09/21/07 02:30 AM Re: Are the snap technique of old Karate useless? [Re: Ed_Morris]
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Registered: 02/28/05
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"scary puppet"?



anyway, I didn't mean to hijack the thread, the vid just popped up. Reminds me of that bearded Japanese guy that got KO'd by the Kyokushin guy.

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#360961 - 09/21/07 09:39 AM Re: Are the snap technique of old Karate useless? [Re: wristtwister]
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Quote:

... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHt0JYfgVGY





I always laugh at fat guys giving ma demonstrations. I'm thinking , dude, get in shape for goodness sake.
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#360962 - 09/21/07 12:26 PM Re: Are the snap technique of old Karate useless? [Re: wristtwister]
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After watching the Dr.Yeung from the 1970s,80s & 90s his basics are pretty sharp, he advanced pretty much like the rest of us trained external and then internal. He is a pretty powerful and knowledgable sifu but the no touch is a bit much.

I wouldn't trust that on the street, if you believe it may work. You just can't ask if they do on the street. I'm mean like this, "Before we dance do you believe in no touch Chi or Voodoo?"
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#360963 - 09/21/07 01:10 PM Re: Are the snap technique of old Karate useless? [Re: Neko456]
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Quote:

I wouldn't trust that on the street, if you believe it may work. You just can't ask if they do on the street. I'm mean like this, "Before we dance do you believe in no touch Chi or Voodoo?"




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#360964 - 09/21/07 07:25 PM Re: Are the snap technique of old Karate useless? [Re: MattJ]
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I call BS on that Yeung video too. I think it was the Amazing Randy and I'll see if I can dig up the link...if there is one...where another Internal Kung Fu guy claimed to be able to move another person, his student, with chi.

Even agreed to be do it with a sheet in front of him and the person "linked" to him. Turns out couldn't do it without line of sight and was perplexed by this (remember karate guy vs ki master). When the tape was examined there is a sympathetic response from one to the other to quickly mimic what was expected....but there was a time delay. The participants seemed to be unaware of this. When you delude others, sometimes it starts with oneself.

Hokey stuff to believe in. Sorry.

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#360965 - 09/25/07 04:53 PM Re: Are the snap technique of old Karate useless? [Re: butterfly]
matchhead_jack Offline
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Registered: 01/15/07
Posts: 96
Loc: Jonesboro, Arkansas
Dr.Yeung's video is a load of bovine escremate. Forget Randy, I'd like to try. Is this the guy that taught George Dillman? This fellow's way better than him! Could he send a chi ball through the internet to attack soa;lsjd;klas...sorry I went unconscious for a moment...where am i? Why am I hearing gongs?

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#424102 - 12/19/09 02:04 PM Re: Are the snap technique of old Karate useless? [Re: Neko456]
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I'm new to this forum and I realize that this is an older thread, but I am wondering if someone can explain what the target(s) for a snapping roundhouse kick would be? in 'Ed Morris's' post, he says he was kicked to the inside of the thigh and it almost dropped him. Are there any other useful targets from a more historical and self-defense perspective? (in other words, I'm not interested in snapping kicks to the head which seem to be a relatively new and sport influenced invention.) Also, I have trained in both muay thai and goju ryu karate. I was taught to use my shin for the power round in muay thai but to use the top of my foot for the snapping roundhouse kick. Is the top of the foot the correct contact point for the snapping roundhouse kick in karate? I would really just like to understand the snapping kicks better and their function from a self-defense point of view. A power round to the outside of the thigh seems like it would be more effective and devastating than a snap kick to the same area. Sorry to be long-winded. Just looking for some clarity.

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#431009 - 12/01/10 12:19 AM Re: Are the snap technique of old Karate useless? [Re: Neko456]
Brusashi Offline
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Registered: 08/12/10
Posts: 23
Loc: Florida
I don't think the snap techniques are useless. Their affect is diminished when you spar, of course, due to padding. If an opponent/assailant is advancing into your range, snap punches and kicks are useful because they will allow your opponent to continue in your range as you hit them continuously. Thrust punches and kicks would be used more so as positional checks. Think of it in terms like this, a snapping punch or kick is used in instances in which there is a need for speed, a thrusting punch or kick is used in instances in which there is a need for power. Food for thought.
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