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#360780 - 09/14/07 06:20 PM Re: Must see clip [Re: Gavin]
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Another things this engrains is false confidence. Should this little girl actually believe she can do this in the outside world if attacked by a large man?


That's precisely what I was saying here. I'm not attacking underdog in any way, shape, or form.

I agree with your sentiments.
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#360781 - 09/14/07 10:29 PM Re: Must see irresponsible clip [Re: Gavin]
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If they have a large male falling over with a slight tap they may believe it. They then might be inclined to engage an attacker rather than running...that bothers me! Misinformation in this case could have serious consequences.

thats a really good point.

there's a big difference to that nonsense in the video vs. teaching kids targets AND how to hit hard.

the light tap 'magic button' pressure point folk are as fraudulant and delusional as the NTKO folks....and I think it's the same psychological mechanisim going on.

anybody ever hear of ANY police force in your country or anwhere in the world training light touch knock-outs for real-world application? probably not. reason: it doesn't work on strangers.

there are no 'magic buttons' to switch people off, ladies - you will HAVE to learn how to hit something hard. maybe it's tempting to think there is magic power out there that will compensate for lacking actual hitting power...but there isn't. learn how to hit hard first, then learn which vital areas to hit, and then refine the targeting to the more specific targets.

hit hard, without delusions of what will happen.

#360782 - 09/15/07 03:29 AM Re: Must see irresponsible clip [Re: Ed_Morris]
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Totally agree Ed. And if this was just a fun clip why does it have this description:


A Young Girl, a Large Man and the power of Kyusho!

This young girl, Kayla (10 at the time), was brought up at the first International Kyusho Convention in 2000, to demonstrate the potential of Kyusho.

This was a new experience as she was never taught Kyusho prior to this day, but with a bit of coaching, she learned self protection is possible in a very short time.

Kyusho is not Magic, it is understanding the Human Body.

So now this isn't just a demo, this is what is being touted as self protection these days!
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#360783 - 09/15/07 07:52 AM Re: Must see irresponsible clip [Re: Gavin]
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finished that description for them:

Kyusho is not Magic, it is understanding the Human Body in a magical way.

#360784 - 01/14/08 11:01 AM Re: Must see irresponsible clip [Re: Ed_Morris]
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i must dig in here on the issue of pressue points not working on strangers to the training concept.

when i go on tour with my instructor we work mainly with people who have not trained with us or in kyusho jitsu and we still get the same predictive results. we also find that some people don't have the same reaction as the majority. but the then they are open to other points or are really sensitive to joint locks.

in relation pp ko's, the best thing you can expect are TKO's. much of the evangalistic type demo's are pure fluff and are mainly well meaning students trying not to make a fool out of there instructor.

to paraphrase taika oyata, kyusho works best delivered at a time when the attacker is not expecting it. when someone has not trained in kyusho they will not think that a strike on the arm will hurt like feck as most people do not try to protect there arms.

in my class students seem to be less responsive to strikes the more we practice. as there body prepares for the hit or they know the drill and where the strikes will land.

#360785 - 02/10/08 10:08 PM Re: Must see irresponsible clip [Re: Paulol]
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#360786 - 02/11/08 07:57 PM Re: Must see irresponsible clip [Re: Ed_Morris]
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now I see what you mean:

well done! you got that in one!

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