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#360722 - 09/13/07 02:43 PM Muay Thai and aging.
ChangLab Offline
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Registered: 06/02/03
Posts: 312
Loc: Cincinnati, Ohio
Hello all, I am 38 yrs old and just started Muay Thai training.

I freakin LOVE it.
I have trained in several arts in the past
Sho Ryn Ryu- green belt
Kung Fu-6 mos or so.
Tai Kwon Do- yellow belt
"Freestyle"- whatever that means...General fight training miscellanious sparring and stuff..

Now that I'm doing Muay Thai I am enjoying my training more than I ever have.
I love hitting the mitts/bags every session.
the cardio kicks my butt(I smoke 2-3 packs of ciggs a day)
BTW I will be quitting in October of this year.
My question is how do the "older" fighters out there hold up in terms of keeping up.
I'm sure experience has alot to do with it as far as sparring goes.
The school I go to also teaches TKD and BJJ.
At some point I want to learn some BJJ, I also would like to achieve a black belt someday.
(yeah, at this point I want it all)
I know it will take some time to achieve all of these goals
When I quit smoking I hope to pick up a second class TKD or BJJ , I haven't decided.

Any comments from the "creaky old timers " would be most appreciated.
No DISRESPECT INTENDED...!!!!!


Thanks,
Mark

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#360723 - 09/13/07 05:30 PM Re: Muay Thai and aging. [Re: ChangLab]
JKogas Offline
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Loc: North Carolina
I am one of the younger "creaky old-timers" (42) around here. No disrespect taken. As far as your goals are concerned, I say GO for it! Let nothing stop you from doing those things you want to do. Life has to have purpose. If these are the things that provide passion in your life, by all means pursue them and enjoy every second of it.

As you are probably aware at your age, time gets BY you before you know it. If there is anything that I've learned, it's to go full speed ahead and enjoy every minute of your life. You don't get a second chance (as far as we know anyway).

At later ages, you just have to stay in shape. Take extra care to do that and avoid injuries as much as you can as they will set you down and KEEP you down. Otherwise, go for broke pal.


-John

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#360724 - 09/13/07 05:35 PM Re: Muay Thai and aging. [Re: ChangLab]
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Training in Muay Thai is great fun but at your age and past experience you will never really compete against the elite unless you are really something special. But with your past record you seem to study and quit, being your highest rank is green belt. Of course MT doesn't have any rank its all about training to compete unless you train the sd version.

I'm not trying to spite you just saying really most Muay Thai boxers, in Thailand start at 8-9 yrs old and careers are over at 26-30 yr. old, its a young man game usuall 60-100s of fights.

But just for recreation and skill enhancment you can learn alot but without being shape and limb conditioning your chance for injuries are high. Bruises heal slowing at your age and older from full committed attacks on the striking and kicking bag/pads or sparring. If you train cautious and safe you can learn alot, but cautious and safe are bad words in Muay Thai.
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#360725 - 09/14/07 01:48 AM Re: Muay Thai and aging. [Re: Neko456]
Taison Offline
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Creaky old timer?!?!?

HEY!

I may be grumpy on most days but I am no "creaky old timer"!

-Taison out
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#360726 - 09/14/07 10:30 AM Re: Muay Thai and aging. [Re: Taison]
Helen2005 Offline
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I think that everyone's body works differently and therefore, it will be impossible for anyone here to tell you to not go for it. If you really want to pursue it, then by all means, do. Otherwise, you might regret it. I just started training myself and I'm 30. I remember a famous fighter that got started late as well and he's now considered almost a legend. Ever heard of Randy Couture. He's 44, I think, and he's still kicking butt. I think you can do whatever you set your mind to, so good luck!!!
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#360727 - 09/14/07 11:31 AM Re: Muay Thai and aging. [Re: ChangLab]
Cord Offline
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I wish 'Wildbill' were still posting, he would have great perspective on this, but basically speaking, the conditioning intensive nature of MT, combined with you quitting smoking, should mean that in 6 months time, you will feel fitter and younger than you have in years.
The big thing about ageing is not so much that your performance will suffer noticeably, but that recovery time increases. it would be worth putting aside some of the money you save by quitting smoking for a sports/deep tissue massage every 2-3 weeks.
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#360728 - 09/15/07 03:27 AM Re: Muay Thai and aging. [Re: Taison]
ChangLab Offline
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Registered: 06/02/03
Posts: 312
Loc: Cincinnati, Ohio
Thanks for the replys...
IMake a fair amount of money from playing the drums.
so, I worrie about my shins .... too much...
thanks again...

Taison.... The "creaky old timer" was drawn from the "creaky old timers mods" thread....Once again..
. NO OFFENCE MEANT....

I'm feeling "creaky" these days....

I'm looking for advice fron well age'd MA'iist
-Mark

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#360729 - 09/15/07 11:40 PM Re: Muay Thai and aging. [Re: ChangLab]
Taison Offline
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I'm no old timer!

I'm like one of the youngest mod, except Supremor, he's like a kid.

-Taison out
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#360730 - 09/18/07 09:11 AM Re: Muay Thai and aging. [Re: ChangLab]
schanne Offline
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I'm 50 and take the class twice a week, the striking, elbows and low kicks are a piece of the pie. It also breaks up the routine my traditional training.
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#360731 - 09/18/07 09:30 AM Re: Muay Thai and aging. [Re: schanne]
ChangLab Offline
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Loc: Cincinnati, Ohio
Week 2 and so far so good...

Were working some combos and blocks.
all with 16 oz gloves and shin pads...
hitting muay thai pads or each other...

my hips are a little sore but that's all so far..

except for stubbing my *** toe 3 times last night....
not kicking mind you.... just walking with the shin/foot pads on...

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#360732 - 09/18/07 09:37 AM Re: Muay Thai and aging. [Re: ChangLab]
Taison Offline
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I got used to stubbing my toe. I do it quite often and honestly, it annoys the heck out of me.

I mean so many years and I still stub my toe!!

-Taison out
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#360733 - 09/19/07 08:32 AM Re: Muay Thai and aging. [Re: Taison]
schanne Offline
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What's with all the Toe Stubbing in Muay Thai class??

Ran the class last night and tried something new. I had everyone partner up with a blast master. They had to clinch up and knee their opponent as much as they could. The pupose was to hold and control your opponent long as possible. The person clinched was suppose to try and evade/or slip out of the clinch if possible. Amazing how long you can clinch/control someone up if you have your arms and hand properly locked around their neck. Oh by the way make sure your not wearing an ear rings, people know better and have been told to remove those silly things, it's not my problem your ear is bleeding!
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#360734 - 09/20/07 06:00 AM Re: Muay Thai and aging. [Re: schanne]
shills11 Offline
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Posts: 376
Loc: Glasgow Scotland
I've dislocated both knees one twice, all playing football, my knees ache when its cold and when it rains,(i live in scotland!) all this and i'm only 23, never been hurt badly in muay thai and fg anything its helped strengthen my knees, i say good luck and forget about the age, after all i probably have a 50 year olds knees and i do fine
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#360735 - 09/27/07 01:54 PM Re: Muay Thai and aging. [Re: ChangLab]
ChangLab Offline
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Registered: 06/02/03
Posts: 312
Loc: Cincinnati, Ohio
Week 3... I am now feeling like a noob... I wish I didn't have an ego when it relates to MA but in all honesty.. I do.
I'll have to work at it... I just get frustrated that I am not as good as I once thought I was..

Let the learning begin....

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#360736 - 09/27/07 04:12 PM Re: Muay Thai and aging. [Re: ChangLab]
Helen2005 Offline
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Registered: 06/27/07
Posts: 77
Loc: Arkansas
I feel your pain. I thought I was getting Muay Thai down pretty good, and then an instructor comes up to me to show me the right way on doing something. Don't let it get to you and remember, be humble when it comes to training. You will never stop learning .
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#360737 - 09/28/07 04:05 AM Re: Muay Thai and aging. [Re: Helen2005]
Taison Offline
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Or do like me;

Ignore the teacher and find what works best for you.

IMO, my sidekick can do a lot more damage than my front thrust kick, and my footwork lends better mobility than the one taught by the teacher.

BUT BE WARNED!

You're there to learn!!! If you're there to display ego, you might as well pack up and go back where you came from.

You can start innovating once you're on the level where there's not much you have to learn beside actual sparring experience. Then you use some tricks from the "old days".

-Taison out
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#360738 - 10/02/07 12:43 PM Re: Muay Thai and aging. [Re: Taison]
ChangLab Offline
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Registered: 06/02/03
Posts: 312
Loc: Cincinnati, Ohio
I am definately there to learn... and to get in shape..

Week 4...I get frustrated in my inability to execute certain mooves efficently but, I am learning...
Wed may be my first sparring session in this class.
We did a little "leg sparring" (just kicks) Monday.
I was able to get in on some of the less experienced students, but I partnered up with a guy who is one of the better fighters in the class and he blocked most of what I tried, he also took it a little easy on me as I'm still new.
But it was good to patrner up with a guy who has some experience.
then we did conditioning... taking turns kicking to the leg or body and no blocks.. that was fun.. ouch.

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#360739 - 10/03/07 03:22 PM Re: Muay Thai and aging. [Re: ChangLab]
Helen2005 Offline
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Loc: Arkansas
Applying what I have learned to actual sparring is my big weakness right now. When I spar, I just want to brawl and I know that's not the correct way to do this. I'm supposed to use the techniques I have learned, so I understand where you're coming from. All I can say is keep at it and eventually, hopefully, we will both get it!
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#360740 - 10/04/07 01:45 PM Re: Muay Thai and aging. [Re: Helen2005]
ChangLab Offline
Sleepy-ninja

Registered: 06/02/03
Posts: 312
Loc: Cincinnati, Ohio
Wed night tought me ..... RESPECT!

Today my legs hurt...Those leg kicks are no joke.
I have alot better understanding for what I'm seeing in UFC fights.
But it was a great class nontheless..

I have pushed myself to my limit several times in every calss so far...it's got to be helping... right?

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#360741 - 10/05/07 04:26 AM Re: Muay Thai and aging. [Re: ChangLab]
Taison Offline
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Yes.

-Taison out
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#360742 - 10/11/07 05:09 AM Re: Muay Thai and aging. [Re: Taison]
shills11 Offline
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Registered: 07/19/07
Posts: 376
Loc: Glasgow Scotland
it's quite good to see you summarising your experience on a week to week basis maybe you should start a blog, it would be intersting to look back after youve been at it for a year, and might be a good insight to the training for others who are starting out

just a thought

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#360743 - 10/11/07 05:32 AM Re: Muay Thai and aging. [Re: shills11]
Taison Offline
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I'm too lazy to do that.

My week consists mainly of:-
1) eating
2) sleeping
3) drinking
4) chain smoking
5) kicking the can aka b!tching about how life is miserable without a job
6) How I'm such a pro even though I can't be bothered to move my arse.

-Taison out
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#360744 - 10/11/07 09:55 AM Re: Muay Thai and aging. [Re: shills11]
ChangLab Offline
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Registered: 06/02/03
Posts: 312
Loc: Cincinnati, Ohio
Quote:

it's quite good to see you summarising your experience on a week to week basis maybe you should start a blog, it would be intersting to look back after youve been at it for a year, and might be a good insight to the training for others who are starting out

just a thought






Would it be innapropiate to do that with this thread?
(since I've already started)

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#360745 - 10/11/07 10:12 AM Re: Muay Thai and aging. [Re: ChangLab]
shills11 Offline
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Posts: 376
Loc: Glasgow Scotland
I dont think so, but the moderators might have different ideas about that.

I think it would be a good idea as you would be able to throw up a lot of info and problems that apply to everybody that does Muay Thai and maybe the guys with more experience on here will complement your training by giving you good advice. I've heard people say that you shouldnt waist time on forums and get out their and train, but i think if your training hard enough the forums/blogs will give you helpfull pointers in the right direction.
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#360746 - 10/12/07 01:59 AM Re: Muay Thai and aging. [Re: shills11]
Taison Offline
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Changlab,

Feel free to start a new thread and blog about your MT training. I'd be honored if you did, it'll breath a little more air into these parts of the forum.

I might start doing that as well soon as I find more freetime.

-Taison out
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#360747 - 10/18/07 04:21 PM Re: Muay Thai and aging. [Re: Taison]
shills11 Offline
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I think the invitation to start a blog has scared changlab off !!

I blame YOU Taison puting far to much pressure on the guy tut tut
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#360748 - 10/24/07 01:33 AM Re: Muay Thai and aging. [Re: shills11]
Taison Offline
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Registered: 09/06/05
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Well. .

It seems I have scared him.

Oh well, in order to get that nice bloke back, I'm going to ban you Shills, in order to justify his abscense.

-Taison out
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#360749 - 10/24/07 12:15 PM Re: Muay Thai and aging. [Re: Taison]
ChangLab Offline
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Registered: 06/02/03
Posts: 312
Loc: Cincinnati, Ohio
I haven't been scared off... I'm getting married this weekend and haven't had time for training. but I will keep posting as I keep training..

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#360750 - 10/24/07 01:24 PM Re: Muay Thai and aging. [Re: ChangLab]
shills11 Offline
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pheeeeeew,

that was close, good to see you are still with us and congrats and good luck on the wedding
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#360751 - 10/25/07 03:16 AM Re: Muay Thai and aging. [Re: shills11]
diamondbar1971 Offline
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Loc: missouri
in response to getting older,,,,hahahah,,,i just turned 57 today, and i have been in martial arts for 40 years and i never get tired of it, oh i get tired alright, and my old body aches and i am a little stiff in the mornings after i
have had a few rounds or two and i don't heal as fast as i once did, but i will go to my grave kicking and punching trying to get that last hit in,,,thats just the way it is..
so hang in there and as YOU get older, just sit back be patient and let your opponent come to you, afer all martial arts IS for self defense also. (and stop smoking)

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#360752 - 10/25/07 03:18 AM Re: Muay Thai and aging. [Re: diamondbar1971]
diamondbar1971 Offline
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i guess i sent that to the wrong person,,,sorry they say the mind is the first to go....

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#360753 - 11/09/07 02:36 PM Re: Muay Thai and aging. [Re: diamondbar1971]
ChangLab Offline
Sleepy-ninja

Registered: 06/02/03
Posts: 312
Loc: Cincinnati, Ohio
Just a quick update...
The wedding went well,the honeymoon was fantastic.
I got my perscription for CHANTIX and will quit smoking next friday.

Back to class on monday.

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#360754 - 11/20/07 09:05 AM Re: Muay Thai and aging. [Re: ChangLab]
ChangLab Offline
Sleepy-ninja

Registered: 06/02/03
Posts: 312
Loc: Cincinnati, Ohio
Well I quit smoking on Saturday, it's been 3 days... it's not easy but I can already tell a difference..
In class I didn't have to gasp for air like I used to..
Man what a relief..I just couldn't breathe before.. now I can it's like night and day..

As for class we worked on blocking/taking hits "boxing style"
keeping our guard tight..
I do ok with head shots but I have alot of trouble blocking hits to the body...frustrating..

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#360755 - 11/20/07 10:03 AM Re: Muay Thai and aging. [Re: ChangLab]
shills11 Offline
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SNAP!!

We did boxing blocking techniques last night also,

glad to hear the wedding went well

and hope you can keep that filth from your lungs/arterys.

(my step dad just had a stroke, probabley partley to do with the fact he was a heavy smoker all his life, sad thing was he ad given it up for 6 weeks before it happend)
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#360756 - 11/26/07 02:48 PM Re: Muay Thai and aging. [Re: shills11]
ChangLab Offline
Sleepy-ninja

Registered: 06/02/03
Posts: 312
Loc: Cincinnati, Ohio
Saturday I had a 1 on 1 lesson from the instructor...it was very helpful in tightening up my technique...
day 10... still not smoking..

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#360757 - 11/27/07 02:57 PM Re: Muay Thai and aging. [Re: ChangLab]
Helen2005 Offline
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Good job, ChangLab. I quit about 4 months ago and it does get easier. Just stick with it and you will keep seeing improvements in your health.
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#360758 - 12/13/07 05:38 AM Re: Muay Thai and aging. [Re: Helen2005]
ChangLab Offline
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Loc: Cincinnati, Ohio
It's been 3 1/2 weeks since a cig..
I have tried sparring twice now, I always try to spar with someone who is more experienced, or better than me..
I am not good at sparring but am learning how..

How do you folks get inside?
all I seem to do is Jab and leg kick with an occasional front push kick..
my cross seems short and a hook is just silly at this point as I would just be hitting air...
but I will spar as much as they will let me..
my biggist fear is that the better students will not want to spar with me because I'm not much of a challenge.

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#360759 - 12/13/07 08:03 AM Re: Muay Thai and aging. [Re: ChangLab]
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First of all congrats on the smoking,


I found this on a site http://www.singto.co.uk/Strategy/Strategy.htm and found it very helpfull for me when sparring, most people are a mixture of these styles mentioned. I'm tall myself so dont often find that i have a reach disadvantage, but when i do spar with someone with a better reach it is frustrating so i understand! you need to be faster off the counter to get inside then let those bombs fly


The 'Puncher'
The puncher is a very dangerous style of fighter, if their timing is correct they can nullify most other styles of fighter. Usually moving in aggressively to reduce the range between you and them quickly. Unloading six to twelve punch combinations to the head and body to keep you back pedalling, waiting for you to drop your guard for the KO.

So how do you deal with The 'Puncher'? It is important to keep them either at long range with good use of front kicks, or to draw them in close to the clinch, where their punches will become worthless.

If your unfortunate enough to find yourself under a continuous bombardment from a puncher, one which you have been unable to tie up in the clinch. It is important that you stay behind your guard, stay calm and time your escape with some very evasive footwork.



The 'Clincher'
The clincher can very easily sap your energy levels, and are very technical fighters due to the complexity of closing the range into the clinch, holding the clinch and then delivering good quality knee strikes once there. This close range fighter nullifies most other weapons in their opponents arsenal.

So how do you deal with The 'Clincher'? It is very important to keep them at medium to long range, with good use of front kicks and roundhouse kicks.

If your unfortunate enough to be caught in the fighters grip, it is important that you use the close quarter weapons of the elbow. Whether already tied up or in the process of being tied up, you must make good use of horizontal, uppercut and straight elbows to bring your opponent to a stop.



The 'Elbower'
The elbower is a specialist who will be using very unusual movements to get in. Either giving away a few points or strikes from their opponent, to allow them to move in to the close quarter distance that they need to be to deliver their deadly weapons of choice. Once in, they will begin to try and either bring about a stoppage by a cut or by knockout.

So how do you deal with The 'Elbower'? It is important that you do not move into the inside of their guard. Staying to the outside with punches, roundhouse kicks, front kicks and long knees (ensuring that you lean out the way) will ensure that they will not have an opportunity to move in close.

If your unfortunate to find yourself in to close, it is important that you go to clinch and tie up their arms, by either wrapping over the top of both their arms, or by clinching high up under their arm pits to ensure that they cannot generate any power with their strikes.



The 'Kicker'
The Kicker is usually a powerhouse, concentrating on this sole technique when practising on the bag or pads. They are a very dominating force when in the ring, usually moving forward slowly and methodically throughout the whole fight, picking of their opponents with effective strike to the body.

So how do you deal with The 'Kicker'? It is important that you have good timing, waiting to deliver straight punches or hooks just as they are about to deliver their kicks. Or you can hold your ground and block strongly then counter with straight punches to your opponent.

If your unfortunate enough to find that your timing is not as good as it needs to be, try to cause your opponent to miss by dummying or faking techniques. This will hopefully cause them to throw weighty kicks that miss, and make them of balance or in a compromising position. From which you can take advantage by attacking their back or blind side.


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Counter Fighter
A counter fighter will constantly move backward or make their opponent miss in the hope that their opponent will be wary of throwing techniques. Once their opponent is off balance or has missed their target the counter fighter will attack, and then move away again picking up points as they do. Quite often you will find that counter fighters will try to work from a corner or of the ropes, this ensures their opponent has to come to them, and that the counter fighter can pick points of at will.

So how do you deal with Counter Fighter? One particular way to deal with a counter fighter, is to stand off from them, make them come to you. The other way to deal with a counter fighter is to work the aggressive fighter style and drive forward, putting the counter fighter under immense pressure.



Aggressive Fighter
An aggressive fighter is constantly moving forward trying to deliver techniques in the hope that this will unease their opponent. Once they sense their opponent is unease or has been moved in to a compromising position, the aggressive fighter will become more aggressive, moving forward even quicker. Quite often you will find that aggressive fighters will also try to hold the centre of the ring, in the belief that by doing so, they are dominating their opponent.

So how do you deal with Aggressive Fighter? One particular way to deal with an aggressive fighter is to use a head on approach, matching the aggressive fighter with equal aggression. Another way to deal with an aggressive fighter is to work evasively, constantly moving, countering every time an opportunity arises.



Evasive Fighter
An evasive fighter is constantly moving in and out on their opponent, working both the counter and aggressive styles of fighting. Their main goal is to ensure that their opponent never gets settled in any one style, constantly making their opponent switch styles, distances and tactics. This constant change is what the evasive fighter is wanting. Quite often you will find that an evasive fighters opponent is frustrated at not being able to get a clean technique to land, or not being able to get a technique to land at all.

So how do you deal with Evasive Fighter? One particular way to deal with an evasive fighter is to wait for them, making them come to you, and making effective use of the small window of opportunity that arises when an evasive fighter moves in and out to attack. Another way to deal with an evasive fighter is to use the aggressive fighters style, hoping that you will put them under so much pressure that they will make a mistake which you will be able to take advantage of. Ideally you want to trap the evasive fighter against the ropes or in a corner, their style of fighting is based around being mobile, if they have limited space to move, their style of fighting becomes redundant.


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Tall Fighters
A taller fighter in Muay Thai has an easier life than a shorter one, as their height advantage usually gives them a longer range to use their weapons with. The taller fighter makes good use of front kicks and long knees, with the added advantage of being above their opponent in the clinch. This means that they can drop elbows at will and create distance between them and their opponent with ease. The disadvantages of a taller opponent are those to do with speed when evading and power in their techniques. They can also find that if their opponent takes them into the clinch strongly around the waist/lowerback, that they are unable to deliver knees or create a distance between them and their opponent.



Shorter Fighters
A shorter fighter in Muay Thai has a harder life than a taller one, as their height reduces the range that they can use their weapons. However their height disadvantage can be over turned by the additional power and speed that they have. Using angles to get into a medium range so that they can deliver punches and roundhouse kicks, causes their opponent to shorten their own weapons, which reduces the power that they have. If the shorter fighter can successfully close the distance to clinching range, and take a good defensive posture in the clinch, being mindful of elbows form above. They will be in a very good position, as the majority of their opponents weapons will be useless. The disadvantages of a shorter opponent are those to do with range their opponents weapons have, and that the opponent can throw techniques from above.
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