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#360708 - 05/12/08 03:37 PM Re: Krav Maga ineffective in MMA setting? [Re: Fletch1]
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The point is that when he used what they were showing him, they stopped resisting.




Personally, I have major problems with the show, and I'd have to agree with you on the aspect of resisting. For the sake of the thread I was just addressing the clip where he got stabbed to demonstrate when confronted with the unknown, he fell back on his fight training and 10 years of MMA fighting did him no good against the knife attack.

Many contend that there is nothing you can do against a weapon, so it's a waste of time to even train for it.

I contend, if self defense (not sport combat) is your goal in training, then it make no sense not to train for a weapons attack.

That is not to say you will win, but you certainly can give youself a better chance then Jason did.
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#360709 - 08/29/08 12:51 PM Re: Krav Maga ineffective in MMA setting? [Re: GOVINDA]
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call it what you like, all the moves are from some other art, its just well marketed, any one with a few dollars and a good business head can sell most things.



uH kRAV MAGA is a mixed martial art, it is mma
Jason Chambers main style is bjj, which is probably why he clinched, bjj in my opinion is bad for self defence. If you have mutiple attackers and start grappling then you can get caught, while your tied up what happens when a second guy comes in with a knife??.
Bjj however is better in my opinion then Krav Maga for a 1 on 1 fight with no weapons, but if course it depends on the practioner.

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#360710 - 08/29/08 01:16 PM Re: Krav Maga ineffective in MMA setting? [Re: Kravinatrix]
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uH kRAV MAGA is a mixed martial art, it is mma




uH no it's not. Krav is a RBSD mixed-style, but that is not the same as MMA. MMA is a different animal. Try a MMA class, and you will understand the difference.
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#360711 - 08/29/08 01:41 PM Re: Krav Maga ineffective in MMA setting? [Re: MattJ]
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uH kRAV MAGA is a mixed martial art, it is mma




uH no it's not. Krav is a RBSD mixed-style, but that is not the same as MMA. MMA is a different animal. Try a MMA class, and you will understand the difference.




uH, Matt. Do mma competitors train at krav schools? uH, no, they don't.

uHHHHHHHHH
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#360712 - 08/29/08 01:44 PM Re: Krav Maga ineffective in MMA setting? [Re: BrianS]
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I think it would be the other way around. I mean I wasn't much interested in MMA until I start krav. Like yall said it ain't MMA, except for maybe some of the striking but it got me thinking about MMA. Especially when they added BJJ to the Krav schedule.
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#360713 - 08/30/08 05:48 PM Re: Krav Maga ineffective in MMA setting? [Re: MattJ]
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It is comprised of moves taken from other styles
therefore its a "mixed" martial art.
The difference is this mixed martial art is not for sport.
If you don't agree with me there is really no point arguing about this as it doesent really matter.
You probably spend more time debating on these boards then actually training.

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#360714 - 08/30/08 06:04 PM Re: Krav Maga ineffective in MMA setting? [Re: Kravinatrix]
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While it may seem to be a matter of semantics to you, there is a difference between RBSD's and MMA. Again, I encourage you to check out an MMA class to understand what it is.

I can also assure you that any of us have spent MUCH more time training than you have, junior.
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#360715 - 08/30/08 06:15 PM Re: Krav Maga ineffective in MMA setting? [Re: MattJ]
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Time training was not what i was questioning.
It was time training compared to the amount of time spent on these forums or debating which i was interested in.

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#360716 - 08/30/08 07:50 PM Re: Krav Maga ineffective in MMA setting? [Re: Kravinatrix]
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I note how you change the subject to pathetic personal attacks when you can't argue you point coherently. Feel free to prove how Krav and MMA are the same thing. Or better yet, ask your instructor - assuming you even have one.

I hope that your martial arts skills are better than your debating skills.



Edited by Dedicated1 (08/30/08 09:36 PM)

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#360717 - 08/30/08 11:24 PM Re: Krav Maga ineffective in MMA setting? [Re: MattJ]
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@ junior.

Well, I can say Matt does train more or equal to time on boards, since I have trained with him.

Second, Krav is not an art, period. Show me where Krav has took moves from BJJ? From what I remember they have none. YEs, they do ground work, but I don't remember it being influenced by BJJ. And if I am not mistaken, MMA< consists of BJJ. Hmm, i think your theory or argument is flawed that Krav is an MMA. Totally two different animals.
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