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#359491 - 09/03/07 11:43 PM Room clearing and CQB
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What techniques and tactics are most commonly used in room clearing and CQB inside of buildings? Do they work well and what can go wrong?
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#359492 - 09/03/07 11:54 PM Re: Room clearing and CQB [Re: Stormdragon]
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Quick Reaction Riflemanship.

You might need to work a little on your grappling, as you might need some close range skills, especially for detaining an EPW.

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#359493 - 09/04/07 12:18 AM Re: Room clearing and CQB [Re: Bushi_no_ki]
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EPW? Yeah I assume the best strategy in unarmed combat is throw some strikes to vulnerable points, takedown, and somehow finish.
Actually if it comes to that I'll pull a pistol or worst case a knife.
In war the grappling is less important to just knockout strikes and trapping I would think though I haven't yet been in that sort of situation so how would I kmow.
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#359494 - 09/04/07 12:57 AM Re: Room clearing and CQB [Re: Stormdragon]
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EPW= Enemy Prisoner of War. You strike with your weapon. Grappling is more important, because anyone you might have to struggle with will a) probably be injured already, and b) you will probably have searched already.

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#359495 - 09/04/07 01:07 AM Re: Room clearing and CQB [Re: Bushi_no_ki]
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Ah I see. Hey how would you say Marine Corps infantry compares to Army? I think they are better quality troops in the USMC but not as well equipped.
Did I ask that before? lol
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#359496 - 09/04/07 02:10 AM Re: Room clearing and CQB [Re: Stormdragon]
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The MC at the infantry level is tougher than the Army. However, a lot of jokes are made about the intelligence of the average Marine. The Army is trying to fight smarter, not harder. The MC is the tip of the spear, the Army is the guy pushing the spear in.

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#359497 - 09/04/07 10:51 AM Re: Room clearing and CQB [Re: Stormdragon]
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Quote:

What techniques and tactics are most commonly used in room clearing and CQB inside of buildings? Do they work well and what can go wrong?




Button hook, j hook, slicing the pie, high-low technique are just a few. It really depends on the mission and what is being accomplished. If an SRT does an entry it might be to flood the room with team-members using judicious applied force. If it is a military mission then the application of force is going to be different with different requirements.

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#359498 - 09/04/07 12:56 PM Re: Room clearing and CQB [Re: hunterkell]
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For instance, we could be talking about a "cordon and search" as opposed to a "hard raid". A cordon and search means there is suspected enemy in the building, whereas a hard raid means that there is confirmed enemy, and the ROE are totally different.

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#359499 - 09/04/07 08:11 PM Re: Room clearing and CQB [Re: Bushi_no_ki]
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Any chance you all could explain those techniques? Buttonhook? What?
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#359500 - 09/04/07 08:57 PM Re: Room clearing and CQB [Re: Stormdragon]
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Just, wait until you get into training. They are all tactics for entering a room and clearing. You'll learn the really basic stuff in Basic, more advanced stuff in AIT, and some really good stuff in Ranger School. I think it would be best if you waited so you don't come off as an arrogant jerk in all these schools, which is actually a quick way to fail out.

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