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#359212 - 09/16/08 08:39 AM Re: Sanchin versus Tensho [Re: dandjurdjevic]
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I assume you are referencing Butterfly's post, and as it mentions the article by Giles Hopkins, I feel obliged to add my newbies tuppence.

While 'Tensho' is not a 'classical' kata (depending on your time frame), it's certainly a 'capstone' one in our Goju. 'Magical' thinking aside, Tensho, in my book, is a 'statement' from Miyagi that deserves some deep consideration.

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#359213 - 09/16/08 09:29 AM Re: Sanchin versus Tensho [Re: harlan]
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Indeed. Well said harlan.
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#359214 - 09/23/08 08:43 AM Re: Sanchin versus Tensho [Re: BrianS]
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Hard tensho. Sometimes we do it this way...but a little more 'loose'.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjlqvJUMTnQ

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I've been unable to do kata for a couple of months because of my knee injury and subsequent surgery,but I have returned...almost. I'm still unable to do much of the turns to the left properly,but I'll get there.

One thing I have questions about. The sanchin I practice is very much like the hard style sanchin we see on most video's. The tensho is a little different. There is no rigidity in my tensho. It is very much flowing and more circular than what I have seen. I haven't found a video like it on youtube or anywhere.

1. Why was I taught that way? (speculate)
2. Is it just different or wrong?

Take into account that I do American goju.(Yamaguchi, Urban, Lou Angel, my instructors)



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#359215 - 09/23/08 02:33 PM Re: Sanchin versus Tensho [Re: harlan]
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Good grief, looked like that guy would have an anurism or something.

Do you take your shirt off to perform this kata too?
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#359216 - 09/23/08 02:52 PM Re: Sanchin versus Tensho [Re: BrianS]
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If I took my shirt off...you'd go blind. LOL!

Isn't this what you were asking...tensho done hard? I thought that meant 'dynamic tension'? We've played with it once in awhile like this, but mostly a 'hard' interpretation that is usuable for striking and blocking.

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#359217 - 10/04/08 10:05 PM Re: Sanchin versus Tensho [Re: harlan]
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Another instance of hard tensho:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F20Z3KCoY_0

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#359218 - 10/04/08 11:32 PM Re: Sanchin versus Tensho [Re: harlan]
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Quote:

One thing I have questions about. The sanchin I practice is very much like the hard style sanchin we see on most video's. The tensho is a little different. There is no rigidity in my tensho. It is very much flowing and more circular than what I have seen. I haven't found a video like it on youtube or anywhere




There are lots of examples of a hard tensho,but tensho is supposed to be the soft aspect of goju. Atleast that's what I was told.

I learned the hard style sanchin too,but our tensho is soft,circular, and flowing.
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#359219 - 10/05/08 03:10 AM Re: Sanchin versus Tensho [Re: BrianS]
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I'm with Brian.

I think doing Tensho that hard misses its point.
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#359220 - 10/05/08 09:16 AM Re: Sanchin versus Tensho [Re: dandjurdjevic]
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And what, in your opinion, is the point of tensho?

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#359221 - 10/05/08 10:04 AM Re: Sanchin versus Tensho [Re: harlan]
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wrist releases and some push hands elements from a solid base?

radical I know but you should check out Nathan Johnsons work on the kata tensho, naihanchi and sanchin.
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