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#357712 - 08/22/07 01:50 AM Army and Marines
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Sorry if this is a bad place to put this but how does Army Infantry training compare to Marine Corps (All USA)) infantry training in terms of length, difficulty, and effectivness?
I have to choose between the too soon and I'm not sure which to go with.
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#357713 - 08/22/07 04:05 AM Re: Army and Marines [Re: Stormdragon]
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United States Marine Corps: http://parents.marines.com/page/Timeline.jsp

United States Army: http://www.goarmy.com/for_parents/training.jsp

Between the two, the Marine Corps is harder.

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#357714 - 08/22/07 04:20 AM Re: Army and Marines [Re: MastaFighta]
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Yeah Army is a bit more lax with discipline and tougness but if I become an Ariborne Ranger it pans out. But I'm still nto sure. I'm looking on other sights though so I wil lfiture it out soon. Any other opinions?
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#357715 - 08/22/07 06:49 AM Re: Army and Marines [Re: Stormdragon]
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Also, does anyone know if it's true that while active both Army and Marines pay for full college tuition, that in the army you get a few thousand bucks upon enlistment, and you are guranteed to get the job you want (Army and Marines)?
Any input would be extremely appreciated and if you feel it would be best message me through pm. Thanks.
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#357716 - 08/22/07 07:39 AM Re: Army and Marines [Re: Stormdragon]
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Are the US Marines part of the US Navy or are they a seperate organisation in themselves?
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#357717 - 08/22/07 09:40 AM Re: Army and Marines [Re: trevek]
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Last time I checked the ARMY will guarantee you a Ranger contract (called option 40). Recruiters are infamous for not wanting to hand those out though; you really have to push for that.

In the MARINES (I think), you are not guaranteed a certain job.

Might I suggest the below sites for answers regarding your questions.

Be warned, if you go on that site and act disrespectfully they will light you up. Many of the posters are still full time Rangers and cadre at the school.

I would read a lot of threads before I posted any questions.

http://www.armyranger.com/bb/[/url]

http://www.airborneranger.com/forums/index.php?act=idx

They both have their challenges, I would not suggest one is harder than the other; they both put their lives on the line and do incredibly hard stuff.

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Edited by hunterkell (08/22/07 09:45 AM)
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#357718 - 08/22/07 10:13 AM Re: Army and Marines [Re: hunterkell]
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The first link is goofed up, this one will work...

http://www.armyranger.com/bb/

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#357719 - 08/22/07 02:32 PM Re: Army and Marines [Re: hunterkell]
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storm,

always have a plan B - the army, navy, airforce and marines each have elite combat units. I hope that you will make it in what ever you try, but keep in mind that a good chunk of people fall out of the elite units. look at what your other options are.

for instance, the marrines have force recon, and then there are also recon units in the rifle battalians (pardon me if I am not using the correct english terminology). but bottom line, being a rifleman in the marrines isn't bad, either.

ditto the army - you have rangers, you have airborn non ranger units, you have the 10th mountain, etc. you also have recon teams, as well as other specialty teams, within the infantry units.


good luck.

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#357720 - 08/22/07 07:33 PM Re: Army and Marines [Re: globetrotter]
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I'm going to at least make Ranger qualitification (If I dont get injured or disqualified for something similar), and hey who knows maybe try for Pathfinder or Sniper School, SF, SERE, etc (that's one thing I like most about the Army is the multitude of school's and options, qualifications, etc.). Airborne is great by itself but I'm going to stop at nothing to achieve Ranger status.
Plan B? Uh, get an interservice transfer to the Marines and go infantry there.


Edited by Stormdragon (08/22/07 07:47 PM)
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#357721 - 08/22/07 11:10 PM Re: Army and Marines [Re: Stormdragon]
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Storm, an inter-service transfer is extremely difficult to get, and you have to pay back any bonus you get from your original service, as well as lose your contribution to the MGIB.

As far as comparison goes, the Marine Corp is tougher in it's initial phases, plus it is harder to make rank and stay in. The Army is easier initially, and to make rank in, and has more options. Ultimately, Your DD 214 is the same, either way, and doesn't make a difference which branch you served in after you get out. An individual employer might be impressed, but overall it makes no difference. You are able to get your job guaranteed in the Army, most marines can't get that. If you are interested in Airborne Ranger, you want to enlist for infantry with a Ranger guarantee in your contract, and possibly Sapper school as well. Sapper school will help if you want to go SF. If not, it actually is impressive to have both tabs on your shoulder. Oh, there's also more reenlistment money for the Army right now.

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