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#356175 - 08/17/07 01:07 PM Re: MA training: How much advantage? [Re: MattJ]
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Registered: 01/18/05
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I apply this any endeavour how much of an advantage would a high school Football player, Race car driver, Basketball player, Hockey player, Ballet dancer and high school swimmer
have over the average joe. If you train in a field you shoiuld have advantage.

Now fighting just live styles has a lot to do with environment, preparation and mindset. For example a guy/person brought up with older brothers or a Father that taught how to scramp is probably gonna fight better then a only child thats never had to fight, most likely.

My point is that there is an advantage of being prepared, there's advantage of being in shape and mentally alerts definitely helps.

#356176 - 08/17/07 02:28 PM Re: MA training: How much advantage? [Re: Neko456]
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Neko I totally agree with that post.

#356177 - 08/17/07 02:42 PM Re: MA training: How much advantage? [Re: MattJ]
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Matt, have to lean more toward the tuperware party, got to believe brother! But I think JohnL can kick his own as@*.
The way of the warrior does not include other ways... Miyamoto Musashi Schanne

#356178 - 08/17/07 06:03 PM Re: MA training: How much advantage? [Re: JKogas]
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How much martial arts training will benefit you is according to how hard you train, how realistically you train, your ability, your fighting spirit or will-power, your state of mind, and your reaction to such situations. Some people just can't take the heat.

As for some people, they can wipe the floor clean of guys a good bit larger than themself. For others, this is NOT the case, regardless of how much training they have under the belt.

For the most part, it depends on the individual. But some training is better than no training at all, unless you just don't have a clue. In that case you could be setting yourself up for trouble when something does go down.

There are too many variables to definitively answer this question. But, I am going to say "Some. You crush some. Some crush you." Because it really depends on the individual and the type of fight.

Some people have no problem wining in a self-defense situation where the attacker is right up on you and all you have to do is put a hurt on him, but when they have to "duke it out" that's a whole 'nother ball game.

So it definitely depends on the individual.
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#356179 - 08/18/07 04:23 PM Re: MA training: How much advantage? [Re: medulanet]
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we're talking about a retired NFL player who couldn't cut it anymore and a wide receiver at that who is 35 years old.

While it's true he was no longer the player he was, he was only 1 season removed from being on an NFL roaster, and anyone who plays 12 seasons in the NFL has hit the genetic lottery.

That said he is a great example of trained vrs untrained. I don't know who he fought, but I would put good money that he was not an NFL caliber athlete, and he damn near killed Johnnie.


is two months enough to say that he had a solid understanding and ability to execute the basics

No way not even close, I don't care who is training you. That is not enough time to learn and change natural instincts a person has, so the best he could hope for is the basic movements.
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