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#354442 - 08/02/07 03:05 PM Too Young ?
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Registered: 05/22/07
Posts: 23
Loc: Australia
Hi all, my son is now a yellowbelt in zen bu kan karate and is about to compete in his first comp as part of his grading for his orange belt which he should achieve by the end of the year. He is entering the kata display and also wants to go in the goundfighting. he's a big boy who is very strong fo his age but i have a few reservations as the different divisions are sorted by weight, not by age or belt.The matches are 1 minute only.Am i insane to let him try . No strikes or elbows/kicks allowed.

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#354443 - 08/02/07 04:00 PM Re: Too Young ? [Re: Dad]
Ronin1966 Offline
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Registered: 04/26/02
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Hello Dad:

How old is the child? Have you raised your understandable concerns with the instructor? Insane, probably not... concerned definately and with excellent reason its your son.
Hense your job to be concerned, right ?

If the divisions were by belt criteria you'd have 5 year olds competing with teenageres. By age, you might have the same problem once you got into the 10+ range; Jonny 10yo, 5 years practice vs. Mary also 10 years old with only 2 years practice experience. Weight seems of the assorted options the most equalizing.

What would be your particular concerns, perhaps those with more tournament ground fighting can addres them directly...

Jeff

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#354444 - 08/02/07 05:42 PM Re: Too Young ? [Re: Dad]
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As Ronin said, there are benefits to having weight classes rather than belt categories, depending on the age of the children. The best thing to do is talk to the instructor if there is anything you are worried about. Chances are, if the instructor feels your son is old enough and ready to compete then everything will be fine. However, if you don't ask, you won't know!

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#354445 - 08/03/07 02:50 PM Re: Too Young ? [Re: Supremor]
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Hello Supremor:

Not to be repetitive/sound like a kiss-up... most definately and PASSIONATELY agree with your sentiment re: using words. For some unknown reason, many even intermediate and advanced students on occasion still desperately cling to the bizarre idea that asking questions is somehow "wrong", not permitted, etc. Knowledge occurs if the questions are asked...

Jeff

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#354446 - 08/03/07 04:26 PM Re: Too Young ? [Re: Ronin1966]
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Registered: 05/22/07
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My young fella is 6 1/2 years old.
He's on of the best students in his class and reguarly wins in tug of war and some of the other games he plays at karate against the othe kids who are 8-9 years old.
I have spoken to his sensei who thin ks he's ready and as the rules are simple - get you oponent in keza katame or try to stand up/stop oponent from standing up, he seems to think he has more chance of getting hurt playing rugby.
I agree with his words, but as other parents I'm sure would understand, he's still my little boy, even if he is over 4 foot tall. On the other hand, he's fallen over, been hit accidentally in class by a class mate doing cartwheels and after a few tears, jumps back into class and seems to be fine so i sorta think he might as well have a go.he is going to class twice a week and trains with assorted belts fo the comp on Saturday's - if it was his choice he'd be at the dojo every day and is already talking about building his own dojo so he definitely has the motivation . Thanks Jeff and Supremor.

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#354447 - 08/27/07 02:08 AM Re: Too Young ? [Re: Dad]
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Registered: 05/22/07
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Hi all, well he competed on Saturday and he got a certificate fo trying. I had told him to tap the minute he was panicked,in pain,even when he got taken down and got into guard if the oponent was alot bigger.Both his sensei and I did not want him to get hurt and have a bad expeience in his first tournament but we did want him to get some experience. My son is gentle by nature, and not one to fight or lash out at his mates so the groundfighting has been a whole new world for him and he's found it it can hurt :-) Hasn't stopped him trying but he is a little wary with some of the older and bigger kids.At the end of the day, he told me he has to lift more weights and get stronger - hehehehe. He also competed in kata and came home with first place and a smug look on his face :-) Mum also got a trophy with a second place in her kata group. to sum it up, we all had a great day and learnt alot.

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#354448 - 08/27/07 09:49 AM Re: Too Young ? [Re: Dad]
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Glad to hear everyone had a good time and learned a bit.
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#354449 - 05/09/08 05:00 PM Re: Too Young ? [Re: Dad]
headstrongBB Offline
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I'm 13 and I currently study at a Kenpo Karate school, and I understand where you're coming fomr, my mom was VERY hesitant to let me compete becuase I have ADHD and my temper is on a VERY short fuse. Over the years, I have learned that ANY child, no matter the age or style or skill or rank, is able to compete. IT IS ALL ABOUT CONTROL. If there is no control, the child should not compete. My instructor has talked to me many times about this, before every tournament actually. He always tells me, "Just shake it off. If you lose, appreciate the fact that someone was better than you, or that someone was able to strike more skillfully. Shake it off and smile, knowing there is room to grow."
Also, I personally believe that it is essential to HAVE FUN. If there is no fun, you're wasting your time and everyone else's time.
hope that helped
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