Sorry I have to disagree! I found that to be the case with most of the schools I visited (NY,NJ,PA,MI,ILL,WI,MN,VA,MD). They are driven by kids as students. I know that you are just defending your org, but I found the skill level to be lackluster. Your school may be the exception to the rule. To answer your question about other orgs allowing students to come in and train, the answer is a big YES ! I found ITF schools to be most the most welcoming and the most consistent in their curriculum, WTF schools also would allow me to train with them (though I had been turned away by several. No ATA or ITA school ever allowed me to train, just to observe. Sorry, just the way I found them to be!