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#348542 - 06/29/07 03:42 PM
Re: POLL - Your self defense techniques
[Re: olga]
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Registered: 04/11/07
Posts: 726
Loc: Fairfax, VA
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That's a good point, and since you know what I look like this will sound really funny to you.
I sometimes still feel like the 5'11" 135 pound stick that I used to be. It feels really odd to hear someone call me a "big guy." I won't (if I can help it) give anyone a second run at me once it comes to violence. It still takes a lot to get me to launch (some would and have argued that it has taken too much on occasion).
For those who don't know I'm currently 5'10" (yes, I shrunk, blame it on the Army) 213 pounds, down from 245 a bit over 3 months ago.
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#348544 - 06/29/07 03:46 PM
Re: POLL - Your self defense techniques
[Re: harlan]
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TKOlga
TKOlga
Registered: 08/29/06
Posts: 174
Loc: northern virginia
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Jeez, Olga. Would you break a guys arm just because he was looking to cop a feel?
Seems to me self defense is situational, and along a continuum. Can someone clarify...does 'self defense' only apply in life threatening situations? Then the only 'self defense' this guy had was situational awareness.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7HtapvNyOo&eurl=
If I am cornered, cannot escape and no one can help me, and the guy is trying to cop a feel, then yes, I will "break his arm." Or try anyway. What would you do? Let him?
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#348546 - 06/29/07 03:53 PM
Re: POLL - Your self defense techniques
[Re: harlan]
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Registered: 01/13/05
Posts: 11399
Loc: Cambridge UK.
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Jeez, Olga. Would you break a guys arm just because he was looking to cop a feel?
On one of our first dates, I came back from the toilet to find a hell of a commotion. A guy had groped Deni whilst she was at the bar, and she had flashed an elbow back managing to spread his nose all over his face! (even more impressive as she was on crutches at the time). I arrived just in time to see his friend helping him out of the pub, and to calm Deni down enough to placate the landlord and explain what had happened.
'Coping a feel' without a girls consent is also known as 'sexual assault', and is deserving of much pain and injury.
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#348547 - 06/29/07 04:00 PM
Re: POLL - Your self defense techniques
[Re: jpoor]
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Free Rhinoplasty!
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Loc: York PA. USA
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Does that mean you would give them a choice in a really truly SD situation?
Somebody jumps you, you are stomping them good, and they say "ok, I've had enough." Do you go through the "do I believe them thought process, or do you go until you know they are no longer a threat?
That would depend on the situation.
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#348548 - 06/29/07 04:28 PM
Re: POLL - Your self defense techniques
[Re: harlan]
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Registered: 04/11/07
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Loc: Fairfax, VA
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Quote:
Jeez, Olga. Would you break a guys arm just because he was looking to cop a feel?
Seems to me self defense is situational, and along a continuum. Can someone clarify...does 'self defense' only apply in life threatening situations? Then the only 'self defense' this guy had was situational awareness.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7HtapvNyOo&eurl=
As for copping a feel, if someone is bold enough to invade your space that way, they are also likely to get violent when you resist.
I'm not sure the video is relevant as there was no SD at all.
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#348549 - 06/29/07 04:42 PM
Re: POLL - Your self defense techniques
[Re: MattJ]
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Registered: 05/04/07
Posts: 59
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Leave the opponent standing or Leave the opponent on the ground? .... hmm
Very good question, MattJ. To be honest, I never think about it before, so I am not sure.
After a bit of thinking...
To me, it seems that leave the opponent standing means ending the fight (or self-defense) by giving the opponent a chance to walkaway; leaving the opponent on the ground is to end the conflict by disabling the opponent (from my striking-style MA training). Both methods of ending the situation seem to have their own merit.
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#348550 - 06/29/07 08:39 PM
Re: POLL - Your self defense techniques
[Re: MattJ]
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Registered: 01/25/03
Posts: 10813
Loc: North Carolina
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Difficult to answer.
The percentage of our syllabus that grounds the opponent could well be 100 percent. Knock-down or take-down, makes no difference to me.
It's hard to answer because I would always attempt to break contact and leave the scene.
If I happen to run away, that will probably leave him standing, so who knows.
-John
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#348551 - 06/30/07 12:12 AM
Re: POLL - Your self defense techniques
[Re: Cord]
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Registered: 02/11/05
Posts: 336
Loc: T.C Michigan, U.S
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Quote by Cord In one of our first dates, I came back from the toilet to find a hell of a commotion. A guy had groped Deni whilst she was at the bar, and she had flashed an elbow back managing to spread his nose all over his face! (even more impressive as she was on crutches at the time). I arrived just in time to see his friend helping him out of the pub, and to calm Deni down enough to placate the landlord and explain what had happened. 'Coping a feel' without a girls consent is also known as 'sexual assault', and is deserving of much pain and injury" This is ridiculous. Next time I am in a bar and a girl cops a feel on my rear I'll be sure to smash her face with my fist to prove a point. Should I file charges against her to when the cops get there?. For "sexual assault". Bet I would be in jail. Wow somebody male or female got groped in a bar what's new. It does not need to end up in a blood bath or broken arms. Out side of that cop beating the hell out of that female bartender, do you really hear about females being attacked in a bar all alone with no one there. More likely in the parking lot after the bar closes an attack would happen. Then I could see major force being used. Better not go to any dance clubs because there is groping all over the dance floor. Grinding too! 
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