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#343486 - 05/27/07 04:47 PM Re: UFC 71 [Re: Neko456]
Dauragon c mikado Offline


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Actually their weights were both dead even at 217 (maybe not 217, but they were even).

I think Chucks biggest problem in that fight was:

A: A wide guard
B: A lack of aggressivness.
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#343487 - 05/27/07 06:52 PM Re: UFC 71 [Re: Dauragon c mikado]
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Over waaay too quick.

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#343488 - 05/27/07 10:55 PM Re: UFC 71 [Re: Neko456]
silenthand Offline
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Chuck needs to stop being a Street Fighter and learn to box. He also needs to keep his hands up because he is very prone to the hook. It is almost as if he has a blind side when he gets hit with one. If anyone here saw the first encounter QJ caught Liddell a lot with the hooks.
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#343489 - 05/28/07 12:37 AM Re: UFC 71 [Re: Dauragon c mikado]
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Quote:

Actually their weights were both dead even at 217 (maybe not 217, but they were even).

I think Chucks biggest problem in that fight was:

A: A wide guard
B: A lack of aggressivness.





I'm not talking about the weight they weighed in as, I'm talking about walk around weight, the weight they naturtally carry when not in the ring. Any boxers, wrestler or Kickboxer knows theres a big difference, sometimes.

As for Chucks fighting style he never was a boxer he was a slugger with a good punch. As mentioned against a bigger man you power can be netrulized and his enhanced. I saw the hook that took Chuck out he was out almost before he hit the mat. Maybe Chuck can whip everybody but Quintin, some people have your number. Jackson may have his.


How did my Judo guy come out? Josh Burkman Vs. Karo Parisyan. Copy an pasted.


Edited by Neko456 (05/28/07 12:40 AM)

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#343490 - 05/28/07 12:59 AM Re: UFC 71 [Re: Neko456]
crablord Offline
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I think rampage beat him the first time out of skill, 2nd time was a lucky shot.

Rampage is still better in my books but they are close.

lidell needs to keep his hands up
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#343491 - 05/28/07 12:59 AM Re: UFC 71 [Re: Neko456]
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I think Chuck went out and tried to beat Jackson. He has always been a counter puncher and at 71 he tried to press the fight and got caught out of his normal game plan.

Props the Jackson for making Chuck come to him. Hope to see a rematch.
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#343492 - 05/28/07 04:03 AM Re: UFC 71 [Re: jc4199]
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It might was started by a hook but from the scene slowed down it was a counter right hand, that dropped Chuck and really the ground pounding woke him up.

I rather see Chuck fight someone else get a title and let them fight to merge the titles. Lets see if Jackson can get pass old man Superman Dan Henderson he boxes pretty good but he's getting old.
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#343493 - 05/28/07 06:05 AM Re: UFC 71 [Re: Neko456]
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Rampage v Lidell was an OK fight, although Mampage looked technically far superior for the little fo the fight we saw.

The best fight of the night was definitely Karo Paisyan v Josh Burkman. Karo was absolutely brilliant- not only his judo throws and groundwork, but his hands were incredible! He really outboxed Burkman all the way through. There seemed nothing that Burkman could do, even when he got a takedown in the second round(I think)Karo looked more dangerous on his back than Burkman did on top, and nearly ended the fight with an armbar. In the clinch, karo was, as you would expect, dominant. It was wonderful to see him resorting to inside boxing skills when he couldn't get a throw. It makes him so dangerous in the clinch, because he can beat you both ways. Anyway, that was my fight of the night, Karo for the win!!

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#343494 - 05/28/07 06:44 AM Re: UFC 71 [Re: Supremor]
crablord Offline
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Registered: 08/10/06
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oddly enough the worst fight was the main event.

I liked the judo fellow but id say he only won because he had better wind. the other guy was doing good before he ran out of steam
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#343495 - 05/28/07 10:09 AM Re: UFC 71 [Re: crablord]
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I don't agree Crablord. Even before Burkman ran out of gas, Parisyan had a great first round, dominated with his hands and defended well from being taken down. Then he had that briliant throw- sort of a mix between tai-otoshi and harai-goshi. later on, Karo's fitness really showed, but he was obviously winning from the beginning.

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