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#343153 - 05/21/07 04:07 PM southpaw and orthodox
danny81 Offline

Registered: 05/09/07
Posts: 350
is it worth it to learn to fight both orthodox and southpaw for kickboxing and MMA or is it better to just fight one way? because i see people who can fight both and people who can only fight one. is it only wise to earn to fight both if it comes natural?

#343154 - 05/21/07 11:37 PM Re: southpaw and orthodox [Re: danny81]
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Registered: 02/03/06
Posts: 72
personally, i train for reality based self defense (RBSD) and in my humble opinion it is best to train and strengthen both sides, as i can rely on both sides should one be hurt or incapacitated. i also find that in combat sports, switching my stance from southpaw to orthodox and back a few times really confuses my opponents. training and strengthening only one side seems like putting all your eggs in one basket to me, but the choice, as always, is yours.

take care
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#343155 - 05/21/07 11:51 PM Re: southpaw and orthodox [Re: formless]
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Formless, nice advice but very to the the book. There are other reasons.


My advice is that you first do orthodox to get yourself comfortable with your 'style'. Then after you know you have a good command in both offense and defense, try and learn Southpaw.

The reason you learn to fight in Southpaw if you're naturally an Orthodox is not because of the stupid reason "If you get hurt on one side and you need to switch" which isn't going to happen. No no. The reason you fight in a Southpaw to begin with is when you're matched with an opponent who has better skill or more experience. There's no way you could in a short period of time catch up with him, hence you use your 'dominant' side to lead with (if you're right handed, southpaw, if you're left-handed, orthodox). Not only will you confuse him, you're making it easier to hit his vulnerable spots by opening your own. If he's naturally a right-handed, but fights in Orthodox, but you're right-handed but fight in Southpaw, you will have an advantage over him because not only are you able to hit his spots easier (remember, he has the same option now) you're hitting them with your dominant hand while he's not even though he has the same option.

For example, you're standing in Southpaw, he's in Orthodox. Both of you have the option of hitting the ribs, which is exposed because of the stances you're standing, but the difference is you're able to hit with your dominant leading hand, while he is only able to hit with his non-dominant hand.

Another reason for doing Southpaw if you're right-handed is simple. It's a heck a lot easier to go on offensive with your dominant side doing the lead. You'll be nuking out blows that'll rattle his ancestors if you were to compared with your left side.

The reason why you don't start training in Southpaw to start with is also something you should figure out. Go, now, and reflect on what I have written. Danny, I know you have an attention span problem, so go think about this and if you have any questions just keep asking. The wise knows he doesn't know and will ask.

-Taison out
I got two fists.. Don't make me use my head as well!

#343156 - 05/22/07 04:06 PM Re: southpaw and orthodox [Re: Taison]
danny81 Offline

Registered: 05/09/07
Posts: 350
alright. thanks. i will keep working in orthodox until i become better then i will practice my southpaw. thanks

#343157 - 05/31/07 01:36 PM Re: southpaw and orthodox [Re: danny81]
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Registered: 11/26/04
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Loc: York, Pa
I recently started this kind of training...quite by accident. Read more here:

Since then I've become quite strong in the southpaw stance, and I'm proud to say that I'm quite confident there. What I noticed first was that I REALLY miss the speed of my left leg. But I gained a sweet front thrust kick with my new stance that I never knew I had. I also discovered a blazing overhand left that I had no idea that I owned.

My doctor said my knee should be good to go in another 2 months. I have no idea if I'll be switching back to orthodox, or what kind of composite stance I'll be using at that point. But my god I found something good out of a real crappy situation with the injury, and I'm happy with that.
I encourage everyone to try to fight on both sides...but take the other's advice too. Build a strong foundation one way before testing the other way.
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