For thesis forms you create what process do you put into their creation? What do you base it on (specifically you all)?

What do you mean, "thesis forms"?

Likec black belt thesis forms for BB tests.

We dont create our own forms for Black Belt. or for any reason really. We have to write a paper for black belt but as far as forms are concerned they must demonstrate knowledge of the katas they have been doing since white belt, bunkai, oyo, henka, history etc.

Our system process is the same as Chatan's. We stick to existing kata.

But... if I WAS going make a kata of my own... it would be based on a few profound self defense techniques that I found very effective and did not want to forget.

I'd keep it simple. Limit this to no more than two main techniques, one at the beginning and one in the middle. Don't try to be too literal with showing the techniques. Show just enough to get an idea of them.

Mix these in, symetrically, with basic stuff (blocks, punches, kicks, turns) to fill it out.

Count the moves and name it for how many there are, in the language of your art.

I've seen some examples of success with this plan.

I guess people do it as we have so many kata.

In my experience most systems do not use thesis form creation as part of their training.

I guess it depends on how you see your forms. Here are several possible models on what forms mean. As your training incorporates thesis forms, which seems closest to the way your training is conducted?

1. Steady State, when you have it, you have it. You just need to keep practicing, or learning more new forms.
2. Open State, you never really have it. A first degeree black belt has it to that degree of study, but there are decades of more detailed trianing to fully understand it.
3. Moving State - You get it but you move on to other things and then you begin to lose it and your training gets re-focused and you begin to get it again. Throughout your life you knowledge flexes.
4. Some combination of the above.
5. Something else all together.

How you answer the above, helps gives some contest on the idea of forms synthesis.

We dont do that I was just curious how one would go about forming a kata.

First thing, I'd make a list of favorite techniques. Make sure they cover the gamut: kicks, hand strikes, plenty of grappling and arm bars. The tricky part would be putting them in the proper sequence so that bunkai would be interpreted in the flow of one to the next. Although I was just mentioning to a student last night how I suspect bunkai has been discovered that was never envisioned by the kata's creator(s).

Forget about "creating" more kata,Better yet,Don't even thing about creating anymore forms than what you have right now.

I'm not telling you what to do,& I don't know how you traing at your school,But it's something similar to this.

#1 Work on your basics(training drills)
#2 There's only one speed while training on your existing kata's,& that's slow & easy with exact movements of kata.
#3 Simple,Practical,& Analysis of kata,such as repetition of newly discoverd techniques,of grappling or drills with another person.

If you'd do this & more, You would certainly do your self a favor,of being a comitted & hard working martial artist,& forget about creating any sort of kata.