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#340130 - 05/30/07 01:31 PM Re: Nunchucks [Re: Reiki]
bocutter Offline
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Registered: 09/27/06
Posts: 7
Loc: Toronto, Canada
I live in Toronto, Canada and I make ... but first:

Possession of nunchaku is illegal in Canada, not just Toronto. A search for "nunchaku law canada" gave me, among other things, a link to Canada Gazette, a government publication.
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Excerpt from Canada Gazette Vol. 132, No. 20 September 30, 1998
http://canadagazette.gc.ca/partII/1998/19980930/html/sor462-e.html

REGULATIONS PRESCRIBING CERTAIN FIREARMS AND OTHER WEAPONS, COMPONENTS AND PARTS OF WEAPONS, ACCESSORIES, CARTRIDGE MAGAZINES, AMMUNITION AND PROJECTILES AS PROHIBITED OR RESTRICTED
<snip>
PART 3
PROHIBITED WEAPONS
<snip>
3. Any instrument or device commonly known as "nunchaku", being hard non-flexible sticks, clubs, pipes, or rods linked by a length or lengths of rope, cord, wire or chain, and any similar instrument or device.
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There is mention of the definition of Prohibited Weapons being under Criminal Code subsection 84(1) but I can't seem to find that document. I'm not sure but IIRC possession of a prohibited weapon is punishable by up to 5 years in jail.

As my club contact, Sensei G, put it, "Nunchaku are not allowed. You may not have them in your dojo, nor in your home, nor in your gym bag, nor in your anywhere ... period. That being said you could come up to the dojo some time and watch some police officers suit up and have at each other.".

I make bo, eku, and tonfa. I do not make nunchaku. Only if requested by a sensei will I make individual sticks with rope attached. It is possible to loop 2 sticks together and disassemble for transport.


Edited by bocutter (05/30/07 01:44 PM)

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#340131 - 10/14/07 06:57 PM Re: Nunchucks [Re: bocutter]
angrycrow Offline
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Registered: 03/01/07
Posts: 3
Quote:

I live in Toronto, Canada and I make ... but first:

Possession of nunchaku is illegal in Canada, not just Toronto. A search for "nunchaku law canada" gave me, among other things, a link to Canada Gazette, a government publication.
_______________________________________________________________________
Excerpt from Canada Gazette Vol. 132, No. 20 September 30, 1998
http://canadagazette.gc.ca/partII/1998/19980930/html/sor462-e.html

REGULATIONS PRESCRIBING CERTAIN FIREARMS AND OTHER WEAPONS, COMPONENTS AND PARTS OF WEAPONS, ACCESSORIES, CARTRIDGE MAGAZINES, AMMUNITION AND PROJECTILES AS PROHIBITED OR RESTRICTED
<snip>
PART 3
PROHIBITED WEAPONS
<snip>
3. Any instrument or device commonly known as "nunchaku", being hard non-flexible sticks, clubs, pipes, or rods linked by a length or lengths of rope, cord, wire or chain, and any similar instrument or device.
________________________________________________________________________

There is mention of the definition of Prohibited Weapons being under Criminal Code subsection 84(1) but I can't seem to find that document. I'm not sure but IIRC possession of a prohibited weapon is punishable by up to 5 years in jail.

As my club contact, Sensei G, put it, "Nunchaku are not allowed. You may not have them in your dojo, nor in your home, nor in your gym bag, nor in your anywhere ... period. That being said you could come up to the dojo some time and watch some police officers suit up and have at each other.".

I make bo, eku, and tonfa. I do not make nunchaku. Only if requested by a sensei will I make individual sticks with rope attached. It is possible to loop 2 sticks together and disassemble for transport.





my karate school is very illegal in this case
we've got every dangerous weapon you can name, all real
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#340132 - 10/14/07 10:38 PM Re: Nunchucks [Re: angrycrow]
harleyt26 Offline
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Registered: 06/23/04
Posts: 75
Loc: Summerfield,Florida U.S.A.
I take them through Customs at the border twice a year to training seminars in B.C.,unstrung of course.That is all they require at the crossing.I would suspect a business may get into some trouble shipping them into Canada but an individual/friend should have no problem sending them to you unstrung from the U.S.I have a friend in Canada that makes the original horse bridal style(megu nunchaku),their appearance is different enough that they do not look like what a nunchaku is normally thought of.If interested contact me through personal e-mail tom@ocalatesshinkan.com I will give you his e-mail address.I don't want to cause him problems with this issue by publicly posting his info.He also has students in Toronto that train kobudo,nunchaku included.Please provide me with your age and your sensei's name as well as your own.It would help if all martial artists would stop referring to kobudo training devices as weapons and start referring to them as Okinawan or antique farming tools.When I travel I carry my equipment in a large canvas tool bag purchased at a local hardware store.When asked what is in the bag I can respond with"tools"and not be lying.After all I really am not planning on going into combat with them. Tom
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#340133 - 10/17/07 12:12 PM Re: Nunchucks [Re: harleyt26]
hedkikr Offline
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Registered: 02/28/05
Posts: 2827
Loc: Southern California, USA
I bought my 1st pair in Hawaii, cut the cord & brought them back in 2 bags (1977). I was aware that owning nunchaku is a felony so I made certain that aside from practicing @ home, I only took them out @ the dojo.

But in reality, if you learn Nunchaku, it's only for the art's sake. Arnis is more practical.

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#340134 - 10/20/07 09:00 PM Re: Nunchucks [Re: hedkikr]
harleyt26 Offline
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Registered: 06/23/04
Posts: 75
Loc: Summerfield,Florida U.S.A.
Hello hedkikr,are nunchaku a felony in southern California or did you live somewhere else in 1977?I live in Florida and the law enforcement here have no problem with them unless you use them for illegal puposes.My group actualy trains kobudo one saturday each month,in a different public park each time.We have a relatively small group and use this this to draw attension and hopefully increase our numbers with interested onlookers.Several members of the local police force have stopped many times to watch us train with bo,sai,tekko,nunchaku,tonfa,kama,eku and tinbe and rochin.But I will say that we do not normally walk around in public carrying our weapons,except to go train.On our last trip to Canada(October 2007)a freind few into Vancouver with his weapons,they kept his Tekko but let him keep everything else including his nunchaku.
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#340135 - 10/23/07 12:09 PM Re: Nunchucks [Re: harleyt26]
hedkikr Offline
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Registered: 02/28/05
Posts: 2827
Loc: Southern California, USA
Possession of Nunchaku in California was the same as possession of brass knuckles, shuriken & sawed-off shotguns. In 1977, the list included switchblades & the catagory was considered a felony offense.

Today PC12029 lists Nunchaku (& the other weapons) as a nuisance, subject to confiscation & destruction but the Atty General may seek to bring charges based on the intent & number of weapons for sale or in possession.

Kobudo weapons in a licensed dojo, being transported to or from a dojo (or exhibition, I suspect - being an extension of the dojo) are exempt.

(too mich info?)

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#340136 - 10/24/07 09:29 PM Re: Nunchucks [Re: hedkikr]
harleyt26 Offline
Member

Registered: 06/23/04
Posts: 75
Loc: Summerfield,Florida U.S.A.
Not too much info,its good to know these things.Myself being from an area where the laws are either more lenient or not as stringently inforced,I need to know this type of thing.I do travel quite regularly and do not want problems.I thought this type of regulation was in other countries.I know one should not walk around carrying weapons on the street.But I did not know that they were so strict in this country.I am scheduled to do a weapons demonstration in Boston in November,does anyone know if there are certain weapons I should reconsider taking?The people organizing the event have not mentioned any restrictions on the weapons we listed.As a matter of fact we had made several sets of Tekko to take along for sale along with brochures of all the other weapons that can be ordered from us.
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#340137 - 10/24/07 10:13 PM Re: Nunchucks [Re: harleyt26]
harlan Offline
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Registered: 07/31/04
Posts: 6664
Loc: Amherst, MA
I think that Sansetsu Kon fall under the same laws as Nunchaku (here in Massachusetts).

BTW: when and where in Boston will the event be held? I'm thinking of (finally!) visiting Boston Kodokan around the same time...and might make a day of it. PM me if you prefer.

Thanks!

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#340138 - 10/24/07 10:37 PM Re: Nunchucks [Re: harlan]
harleyt26 Offline
Member

Registered: 06/23/04
Posts: 75
Loc: Summerfield,Florida U.S.A.
November 4th at the Reggie Lewis Athletic Center.The World Martial Arts Federation is having a tournament(I was told to expect 600-700 competitors)and has invited myself and three of my training partners to demonstrate traditional Okinawan kobudo.The Tesshinkan is a fairly young organization(it was founded in 1999 after Akamine Eisuke,of the Hozon Shinko Kai, passed away)and we are trying to generate interest in it in the U.S.A..We will arrive Saturday afternoon and will return home to Florida Sunday evening,But I would love to meet at the event if that works for you.We will have a table or booth setup with info about us. What and where is the Boston Kodokan?
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#340139 - 10/24/07 10:53 PM Re: Nunchucks [Re: harleyt26]
harleyt26 Offline
Member

Registered: 06/23/04
Posts: 75
Loc: Summerfield,Florida U.S.A.
Hello Harlan,I just Googled Boston Kodokan.Kimo Wall sensei is a friend of mine,he just spent a week at my home and trained a few times a my dojo about a month ago.On his website my dojo is on photo page ten.Do you study Goju Ryu?I study Isshinryu mainly but my sensei is also a Goju Ryu sensei so I do some of both styles.I think we may have a few friends in common.
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