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#338758 - 04/30/07 02:44 PM applying a rear naked choke
student_of_life Offline
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Registered: 10/12/05
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Loc: Newfoundland, Canada
hello all

this is a very satisfying move to pull off on anyone really. a favorite of mine for sure. then the other night in class im rolling with a friend and as i take his back i go for the choke but he tucks his chin, like always. so i take my other hand up to his forehead, and place my forearm across his forehead and pull it back to expose his neck to slip my arm in for the win. and i get stoped by an assistant instrctor saying that im not allowed to pull back on the head, its dangerous he tells me. our regular instructor was out that night, but it really struck me funny that something like that would be considered to dangerous? is that for real? and if it is are there any other restrictions that you might feel important to impart on me before i make an ass out of myself again.

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#338759 - 04/30/07 02:50 PM Re: applying a rear naked choke [Re: student_of_life]
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That is a perfectly legal move in my BJJ class. Not sure about Judo or JJJ, though.
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#338760 - 04/30/07 02:52 PM Re: applying a rear naked choke [Re: student_of_life]
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Judo rules and etiquette. No pressure to the neck or spine.
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#338761 - 04/30/07 04:42 PM Re: applying a rear naked choke [Re: Fletch1]
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booo

ok then, any tips on how to get around that dastardly chin tucking turtle contraption??

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#338762 - 04/30/07 06:29 PM Re: applying a rear naked choke [Re: Fletch1]
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In addition to what Fletch has said, in a Judo competition you are not allowed to touch the face.

You already have his back. Feint attacking the arm or shoulder. When defending he will lift his head up. Slide on the choke!

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#338763 - 04/30/07 06:53 PM Re: applying a rear naked choke [Re: BuDoc]
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Sort-of in line with what BuDoc said, you could also fake the choke and set up the armlock (juji gatami). Thats a great move to use against someone really defending the choke well who may not be expecting the armbar.


-John

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#338764 - 04/30/07 07:59 PM Re: applying a rear naked choke [Re: JKogas]
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thanks guys. since every one is so goving, can i have 20 bucks? im from canada so the exchange will be sweet, lol. thanks again guys, i'll have to mix that stuff in tomorrow night.

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#338765 - 05/01/07 12:34 AM Re: applying a rear naked choke [Re: student_of_life]
Leonine Offline
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Registered: 07/23/05
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Take the ridge part of your hand and cross-face across his nose, it'll lift up his head after a couple tries. Of course, some people frown on it cuz it's just not nice to do, but the way I see it, you're already trying to choke him, who cares about a little grinding on the face.

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#338766 - 05/01/07 08:09 AM Re: applying a rear naked choke [Re: student_of_life]
Taison Offline
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Let go off the arm going for the choke and punch in the back of the head. . .

Wait...

This is judo, not vale tudo. Oh well.

Go for another lock like juji-gatame.

In judo; no touching the face, or applying pressure to neck/spine.

-Taison out
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#338767 - 05/01/07 02:04 PM Re: applying a rear naked choke [Re: Taison]
Leonine Offline
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Oh I see, good to know.

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