Before i bought Kruz's stretching DVD i used to stretch a lot, but I did it completely not the way dvd teaches. What i did is: go into split position, but not stand straight with my hips forward as shown on dvd, but pit my hands on the floor to support my weight. so my body is bent forward. Then i stretch like this trying to go lower etc, also used tensing relaxing thing. I got very far with this stretching too.. One day i got as low as 6 cm from the floor. Now when i went and tryed to do it properly, I got nowhere near that 6 cm... it was something like 50 cm. So I figured that muscles that I was stretching by doing "van damme, on the heels" split stretching were different from muscles im stretching when i stand up straight with hips forward. Now here is a question. Do I need to stretch both those methods? or just Kruz's? and what muscles am I stretching in both of those? Thanx guys.