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#336572 - 06/28/05 08:28 AM how did u get ur side split??
DaDoN_1 Offline
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Registered: 06/13/05
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i'm a green belt in jujitsu...but we also practice a whole lot of different styles..one being TKD..and i'm havin trouble gettin my side split..i my side kick reachs head height..but...how do i get that split 2 the ground??..i already do stretch alot...

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#336573 - 06/28/05 10:00 AM Re: how did u get ur side split?? [Re: DaDoN_1]
wynnema Offline
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why do you want splits for TKD

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#336574 - 06/28/05 03:25 PM Re: how did u get ur side split?? [Re: wynnema]
Iamdadude Offline
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Registered: 06/24/05
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Quote:

why do you want splits for TKD




Probably so he can kick higher...(Just guessing).


Edited by Iamdadude (06/28/05 04:35 PM)

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#336575 - 06/28/05 09:36 PM Re: how did u get ur side split?? [Re: Iamdadude]
knightcommander Offline
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Doind side splits wont make your kicks higer. Kicking requires dynamic flexabilty not static.

With that said, to do the side splits pracitse it more. A good tip is to stand on pieces of paper. It helps remove friction so you can get lower.
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#336576 - 06/29/05 07:42 AM Re: how did u get ur side split?? [Re: knightcommander]
DaDoN_1 Offline
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can u tell me the difference between dynamic and static flexibility knight??
and the ground that i stretch on is already smoothe...

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#336577 - 06/29/05 11:28 PM Re: how did u get ur side split?? [Re: DaDoN_1]
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Static is relaxed stretching, ie lying in a position and holding it.

Dynamic Stretching is moving the joint further and further past its maximum motion through swings. Such as side leg swings.

Dynamic stretching will also allow you to kick head high without warming up.

Im sure someone else can put Dynamic flexablitiy into better words for me.
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#336578 - 06/30/05 12:24 PM Re: how did u get ur side split?? [Re: DaDoN_1]
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#336579 - 06/30/05 01:40 PM Re: how did u get ur side split?? [Re: JasonM]
DaDoN_1 Offline
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thanks alot guys...so i guess we only do the dynamic stretching when we are gonna do kung-fu...we don't really do that when we are gonna practice TKD or anything else...

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#336580 - 07/01/05 07:03 AM Re: how did u get ur side split?? [Re: DaDoN_1]
wynnema Offline
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Quote:

thanks alot guys...so i guess we only do the dynamic stretching when we are gonna do kung-fu...we don't really do that when we are gonna practice TKD or anything else...




err no how/why would you come to that conclusion.

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#336581 - 07/02/05 10:35 AM Re: how did u get ur side split?? [Re: wynnema]
Ethanael Offline
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I don't have my side split -yet-, but I'm pretty close. Usually when you do a side split, you have your legs kind of straight out. I kind of have my lower legs behind me, so it looks like I'm just going down on my thighs. It works pretty well.
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#336582 - 07/02/05 09:24 PM Re: how did u get ur side split?? [Re: wynnema]
DaDoN_1 Offline
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what conclusion??
when we do dynamic stretching??..cause it was explained 2 me what it is....and i know when we do it..i'm in my class u know....

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#336583 - 07/24/05 12:08 AM Re: how did u get ur side split?? [Re: DaDoN_1]
Ethanael Offline
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Stretch as many ways as you can, as many parts as ou can, even if they're on opposite ends of the body.

PS: I have my side split now.
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#336584 - 07/27/05 12:41 PM Re: how did u get ur side split?? [Re: DaDoN_1]
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Not to hijack the thread, but i can't seem to do a side split either. I can side kick my friend in the head (if i wanted to, not that i would) and he's 6'4". The problem is that when i go down, my hips start to hurt. I'm only a few inches from the floor but it feels like my hips are going to dislocate when i try doing a side split. What should i do about that?
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#336585 - 07/30/05 12:15 AM Re: how did u get ur side split?? [Re: Nightrage]
Ethanael Offline
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Registered: 07/01/05
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I had that feeling when I started out, too. Turns out my legs weren't straight enough, so my knees were locking and putting pressure on the hip joints.
Try to keep your legs as straight as possible, within comfort.
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#336586 - 08/01/05 11:24 PM Re: how did u get ur side split?? [Re: DaDoN_1]
FocusFlawlessness Offline
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Registered: 11/04/04
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Practice. I used to do TKD when i was younger...and got to a very reasonable rank. I regret stopping...I wish I could be doing it again but I never have rides...and I don't have my liscence for a few months. The key is to know the difference between the feeling of stretching and pain. some people just aren't built to split to the ground. Just don't stress ligaments and muscles.

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#336587 - 08/18/05 10:52 AM Re: how did u get ur side split?? [Re: FocusFlawlessness]
DaDoN_1 Offline
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Registered: 06/13/05
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it's a lil strange...cause sometimes i reach really close 2 the ground.like about 5inches off or less..and sometimes i'm like 12inches off...can anyone explain y this is so??...

but i haven't been 2 a serious training in like a week..cause i'm still recoverin from grading..i haven't done any sorta of stretches...so i know i'm gonna be in a mess....

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#336588 - 10/29/05 10:54 PM Re: how did u get ur side split?? [Re: Ethanael]
Denouncer Offline
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Registered: 10/27/05
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I am also getting quite close, within a few inches of the side split. I am going to try putting the paper on the floor and seeing if that is the ticket. Thanks for the idea.
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#336589 - 10/29/05 11:14 PM Re: how did u get ur side split?? [Re: DaDoN_1]
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Registered: 10/25/05
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i can kick well above my head and i can not do complete splits.its not wether you can do the splits. its wether you are pushing yourself or not.
The best way to get high kicks, is to practice your kicks over and over and over, each time getting higher and higher. it takes time and practice. its not gonna happen overnight.
keep workin hard
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#336590 - 10/30/05 09:03 AM Re: how did u get ur side split?? [Re: Dudley32]
JasonM Offline
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And remember..."With great power comes great responsiblity."





Umm, was that a quote from Spider man?
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#336591 - 11/04/05 07:30 PM Re: how did u get ur side split?? [Re: JasonM]
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Dynamic, lays on your side propped up on elbow- your top leg is brought up as if some weird kick- warm up first- repeat- repeat- start going harder after the while- increases flexibility and muscles that
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#336592 - 11/18/05 01:49 PM Re: how did u get ur side split?? [Re: DaDoN_1]
nowayaswaylee Offline
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Registered: 05/10/05
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Loc: Washington
One strechin exercise i perform is really simple.
Just lock your legs, and slowly start increasing the distance between your feet. Once you hit a slightly uncomforble point, hold that point for about 30 seconds...
DO NOT PUT YOUR HANDS ON THE GROUND OR ON YOUR LEGS! Just relax them and let them hang.

This kinda strenghens your inner thigh while streching it out at the same time.
(nice for my sidekicks )

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#336593 - 01/25/06 04:08 PM Re: how did u get ur side split?? [Re: Ethanael]
konooburu Offline
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Registered: 01/25/06
Posts: 10
Loc: Eastern Kentucky.
Try spider streches, We do them At our dojo And Its helping me, Allthough You Dont wanna really kick high, A experienced Fighter Usually kicks by The knees Thighs Or Ribs or stomach "Never at the head" Believe me Iv tryed It All that flashy stuff It looks good But Dosent really work.
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#336594 - 01/26/06 08:16 AM Re: how did u get ur side split?? [Re: konooburu]
Eveal Offline
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Registered: 10/15/04
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Allthough You Dont wanna really kick high, A experienced Fighter Usually kicks by The knees Thighs Or Ribs or stomach "Never at the head" Believe me Iv tryed It All that flashy stuff It looks good But Dosent really work.




And you really believe this? Look at most of the KOs in the UFC or any good MA sport fighting people are KOed with head kicks left and right. Also, who do you think your fighting on the street? The majority is not going to know how to defend against head high attacks also. Lastly, in a real fight the body tends to tense up even though you feel relax the muscles tighten meaning that kick is not going to go as high as you may throw it causing more risk for injuries. Being able to kick higher, will reduce that risk or muscle tearing which can result. Thats why we train those kicks. I rather have head high kicks in my arsenal to give my opponent something to think about rather than the same low kicks which will not do the instant damage a great head kick will cause. What happen to push yourself pass your limits and strive for more. Don't compromise with your limits push past them.
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#336595 - 01/26/06 08:41 AM Re: how did u get ur side split?? [Re: Eveal]
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hhmm, would you kick a knife weilding apponent to the head? or, what if no weapons are involved, but there are more than one, would u still risk kicking to the head? Kicking that high in a Street SD situation is very risky.
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#336596 - 01/26/06 06:01 PM Re: how did u get ur side split?? [Re: JasonM]
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Registered: 01/25/06
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Loc: Eastern Kentucky.
Ok so Im a student in The Bujinkan System, And from what iv seen High kicks dont work, I mean I respect all martial arts, But Iv seen a Green belt in Ninjutsu Woop The crap out of a 2nd Dan in Akijutsu Stuff happends The Akijutsu guy Was trying to kick him alot, And All You really have to do is Step off at angles and Dodge the kicks Ukes Etc,+ A Bjj Guy would Prob go in for a choke When you turned for a kick. Alot of stuff aint allowed in most tournaments, "Pressure point strikes Like necks strikes, shutos, Groin strikes, Thigh strikes, etc If All them were allowed. It would make it a good tournament, Ninjutsu is not allowed in Ufc etc Cause of Koppojutsu"Bone Breaking" etc And its Violent Techniques. I mean seriously Whos gonna stand There and Get kicked in the face? "Just Pointing out my reason" Domo Arigato My Friends.
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#336597 - 01/27/06 06:48 AM Re: how did u get ur side split?? [Re: JasonM]
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Registered: 10/15/04
Posts: 303
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hhmm, would you kick a knife weilding apponent to the head? or, what if no weapons are involved, but there are more than one, would u still risk kicking to the head? Kicking that high in a Street SD situation is very risky.




I think at black belt level you should be able to distiguish when and where it is a good time for your kicks. The poster above states almost never try to kick to the head which is a "copout" of "I can't do them so you shouldn't either"

In a street situation I have caught people by surprise with head kicks because I have decent flexiblity to do so and enough speed and strength in my kicks through training. My belief is that your feet must come almost as fast as your hands making you even more deadly. My attacker will have to worry about my hands and feet not just my hands hitting his chin.

Plus a good low kick will bring my opponents head down to my foot not my foot to his head .

Headkicks can be risky but with the right training on them and knowing how to set them up through feints and combinations you can have to advantage over the other guy who didn't want to train them like he should have. Also, the stronger you can get your kick at a higher level think of how devastating they will be at a lower level.

Always, push yourself and don't settle for half-ass performances.

As for defending against a knife, you should know as much as I do that your whole demenor changes. You stances shorting allowing for faster and tighter angles, hands are up wrist facing you covering the vitals, trying to make that weapon wielder over commit his body to allow time to take him out. We all know there is so many "What If" and "Contingencies" to every explinations. So please don't assume we don't know how or when to apply our techniques please.
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#336598 - 01/31/06 07:50 PM Re: how did u get ur side split?? [Re: Nightrage]
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Not to hijack the thread, but i can't seem to do a side split either. I can side kick my friend in the head (if i wanted to, not that i would) and he's 6'4". The problem is that when i go down, my hips start to hurt. I'm only a few inches from the floor but it feels like my hips are going to dislocate when i try doing a side split. What should i do about that?


Are you tilting your pelvis forwards (sticking your butt out, basically)? Cos this is the only thing I can think of....

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