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#336186 - 12/21/03 01:54 PM *My Progress With Kurz*
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I just ordered "Stretching Scientifically" by Thomas Kurz. As of Jan 1st, I'll be keeping a record here of my progress. I'm currently rehabing a pulled hamstring/hip flexor combo, so by then I should be ready to put his methods to practice, and return to the Dojang. I'm expecting great things; as of right now, my side split is ONLY 5 1/2 feet distace from foot-to-foot, and I stand 6'1. That's pretty darn inflexible.
Anyways, I'll post from week to week to track my progress and thoughts!

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#336187 - 01/05/04 09:46 PM Re: *My Progress With Kurz*
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Well, first class back at TKD since Dec 10th; Legs felt good, hips felt good, and kicks weren't hindered by tight hip flexors. But, by the end of class, my left hamstring was aching. Overall a good class.
I've been doing about 15minutes of simple dynamic streching as illustrated by Kurz on his website; front leg swings, side, and back. I won't recieve the actual book for a while, but in the meantime, dynamic stretching everyday/before class, and passive stretching after class.
*Just this little bit has helped tremedously so far. But something to note, I don't think back strength and abdominal strength can be understated. I'll have to work on that on my own time, also. Back has been aching since dropping the weight training in August of 2003.

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#336188 - 01/06/04 12:15 PM Re: *My Progress With Kurz*
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Excellent stuff.

As for the back (and the hamstring) gaining all around athletic form will help leaps and bounds for your TKD!

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#336189 - 01/08/04 08:56 AM Re: *My Progress With Kurz*
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by UKfightfreak:
Excellent stuff.
[/QUOTE]

i agree.

Mike keep up the diary as i think it is a fantastic idea.

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#336190 - 01/08/04 02:59 PM Re: *My Progress With Kurz*
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Mike,
Fantastic idea. I am considering buying Kurz's book. I look forward to reading about you progress and using the info to help me determine if the book is a worthwhile investment.

good luck,
rookie

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#336191 - 01/08/04 09:50 PM Re: *My Progress With Kurz*
MikeMartial Offline
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Thanks for the replies, guys. Looks like I won't recieve the book till mid-Feb, for whatever reason (I'm in Canada), but like I stated above, I'm just following a simple routine, still.
2nd class back last night, and I was fairly sore still from Monday. I came into class about 30 minutes early to warm up, and after a fair number of leg swings, I felt awesome. Still, throwing high right kicks seems to strain my left ham.
I find it amazing what even 10-20minutes a day has done, though. Doing a one legged hamstring stretch after leg swings(seated on floor, right leg out, left foot placed at right inner thigh...make sense? [IMG]http://www.fightingarts.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif[/IMG] I can now almost place my whole hand over my right foot, whereas before, I was lucky to touch my toes. I have about 1-2 inches difference in flexibilty between my right and left, but it's coming.

I'd have to say, the leg swings seem to be the key. Most everyone seem to stress "passive stretching", even my physio and my chiro..when I explain dynamic stretching, they just look at me funny, or tell me "that's bouncing, its not safe". Until I have the book, and am armed with more knowledge, I won't argue much. But it's working.

One thing I am doing outside of Kurz's stuff is applying heat after class. It's for my hamstring, mainly, but I also apply a heating bag to my right ham and both hips, and lower back, as I'm stretching in front of the tv.
Once again, thanks for the response, and I'll keep you posted.

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#336192 - 01/09/04 11:03 AM Re: *My Progress With Kurz*
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by MikeMartial:
I'd have to say, the leg swings seem to be the key. Most everyone seem to stress "passive stretching", even my physio and my chiro..when I explain dynamic stretching, they just look at me funny, or tell me "that's bouncing, its not safe". Until I have the book, and am armed with more knowledge, I won't argue much. But it's working.
[/QUOTE]

They are confusing ballistic stretching with dynamic stretching.

ballistic is where you would passive strech into you best split and then bounce to get lower - this is dangerous.

dynamic stretching is natural (after all - every time we move we are being dynamic!).

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#336193 - 01/19/04 02:32 PM Re: *My Progress With Kurz*
MikeMartial Offline
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Not much new...only changes is that I've added the yoga-type "pigeon pose" to my passive/end of workout stretch routine. It's really just a combo version of a front hip flexor/rear psoas stretch, but seems to work well.

I've notice that even cold, I have a greater range of flexibility than before.

Class is going well, kicks are coming higher, although my left is still lagging and left ham still aches after class.

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#336194 - 01/28/04 08:51 AM Re: *My Progress With Kurz*
MikeMartial Offline
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Still checking my mailbox everyday, waiting for the book [IMG]http://www.fightingarts.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif[/IMG]
Not much change in my flexibility. I have notice that my range of motion while doing dynamic side raises is better. I did slack off for a few days, and noticed after a class I was fairly sore. No slacking!
Broke one of my toes Sunday night(not TDK related) so tonight will be my first class back since Friday. We'll see how it goes.
Left ham doesn't "ache" anymore, but left kicks still feel...limited. Kicks overall feel a lot better; this i think is through a combo of greater flexibility and stronger hip-flexors.
I'd still like to achieve a full side split by Dec 2004. Big goal, no doubt, but I have high hopes.

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#336195 - 02/04/04 09:03 AM Re: *My Progress With Kurz*
MikeMartial Offline
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Registered: 12/18/03
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Loc: Alberta, Canada
Bah!! Amazon.com lost my order for Kurz's book. Looks like I'll have to wait a while longer; should have just ordered through fightingarts.com in the first place [IMG]http://www.fightingarts.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif[/IMG]

Not much has changed...still doing the same routine. Seems I made leaps and bounds, then hit a plateau recently. Just had an adjustment at the chiropracter yesterday after noticing some tightness creep back into my left hip, hope that helps my ROM.

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