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#336006 - 02/16/04 07:50 AM Re: Yoga ,Slow and Methodical Stretching
aerodiver Offline
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Loc: Huntsville AL
Well I am about to start Yoga because after bieng out of the arts for a few years I am finally getting to get back to doing what I love....taijutsu. Any pointers from those of you who have had sucess with it to help regain flexability.


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#336007 - 02/16/04 06:05 PM Re: Yoga ,Slow and Methodical Stretching
MikeMartial Offline
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Check out the reading material on dynamic stretching...I can't emphasize how much it'll help, especially if you're just getting back into martial arts.

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#336008 - 05/30/04 11:01 PM Re: Yoga ,Slow and Methodical Stretching
Ronin1966 Offline
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Hummmmngh...

Don't suppose you've ever heard of a fellow named Gogen Yamaguchi have you? (Might know the man better by his nickname "the Cat"?)

The sandskrit <sp.?> concept "Yoga" means unity. It is identical to the unity which most martial artists strive. If five minutes is the TOTAL amount of time you spend at the beginning and then at the end of your practices on stretching... you must be very young indeed.

Having day jobs, most of us spend lots of time in positions which are not great for health, and rarely promote flexability, suppleness. Even on good days, most it takes at minimum that long to realize whatever emotions & thoughts you drag into practice with you. Then some time to remove them, and get into the body, and what we are asking it to do.

However setting that aside for a moment... lets ask a better question... ok, lets pretend you have "mastered" the physical aspects of what you do. You are in the prime of physical condition, and approaching your 40's or heaven forbid, being older than that...?

What exactly are you going to work on for the next 3-5 decades for which you are alive
and able to move? What will you spend your time examining, exploring... ? What do you do when you've figured out your physical aspects? What do you practice & study then?

Practices like Hatha Yoga, (much less any of the less well known kinds of Yoga in the West) will provide a simpler tool to get there... and having no partner is fundamental aspect of it. Just us looking inward...

<Easy shrug>

Jeff

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#336009 - 07/03/04 02:48 PM Re: Yoga ,Slow and Methodical Stretching
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[QUOTE] Rule Number 1 is stretching shouldn't hurt. Rule Number 2 is stretching shouldn't hurt and Rule Number 3 is - guess what? Stretching shouldn't hurt![/QUOTE]

I disagree Kunoichi

The Yoga I have practiced is Iyengar Yoga. Iyengar Yoga is basically Classical Yoga slightly modified...it's the real deal, the physical art Indian Yogi's have been praticing for many thousands of years.

and it hurts, oh brother, does it hurt. In Iyengar Yoga we are taught to play with the pain barrier in our stretching...to let ourselves approach it without falling over the edge into genuine agony and damage of muscles.

not all stretches are painful, but when tackling big problem areas where blockages often build up, like knees, hips, upper back, and shoulders, it's an unavoidable necessity.

The most important thing to remember with all stretching, not just painful stretching, is to always remain in control of the posture. Never rock back and forth, never initiate movement unless you are moving into a new posture. Let the body's natural breathing action gently oscillate the body in and out of the stretch.

Yoga is also truly amazing for strength building as well. The "mother of all postures", the shoulder stand, is incredible for engaging every muscle in your body simultaneously and making them do work. It's fantastic for your core strength, truly fantastic, because not only does it develop muscle strength it also balances and encourages symmetry. All the muscles running alongside the spine get a tone and are encouraged to work together more equally.

Iíve been doing Yoga for only a few years, not as regularly as I would like to, but already I have noticed a huge increase in my core strength and speed. My breathing muscles are much much stronger and Iím much faster because of it. Imo this is because Yoga focuses very effectively on the internal core of the body.

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#336010 - 07/16/04 01:53 AM Re: Yoga ,Slow and Methodical Stretching
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I really like this yoga. It has really some people I know , and my, flexibilty alot. And, among other things, intense mental vibration energy, awake dreams, and ability to meditate while in discomfort and not notice the discomfort just focusing on meditation instead.
www.yoga-tibet.com
www.atlantis.to

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#336011 - 08/10/04 06:35 PM Re: Yoga ,Slow and Methodical Stretching
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Hello UKfightfreak:

<<I practised yoga for 18 months and really, really enjoyed it.

Imagine if you had only practiced you particular martial art for 18 months? Unfortunate you chose to give it up so soon. My suspiction is the instruction given might not have been dynamic enough, for you. But like others who study Hatha Yoga (the postures/ "kata" of yoga) I have found it very enjoyable and beneficial as well. But I've been forunate to study largely w/ 20+ year teachers of the Iyengar lineage.

Jeff

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#336012 - 08/12/04 07:55 AM Re: Yoga ,Slow and Methodical Stretching
UKfightfreak Offline
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Registered: 01/08/03
Posts: 2599
Loc: San Francisco
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Ronin1966:
Hello UKfightfreak:

<<I practised yoga for 18 months and really, really enjoyed it.

Imagine if you had only practiced you particular martial art for 18 months? Unfortunate you chose to give it up so soon. My suspiction is the instruction given might not have been dynamic enough, for you. But like others who study Hatha Yoga (the postures/ "kata" of yoga) I have found it very enjoyable and beneficial as well. But I've been forunate to study largely w/ 20+ year teachers of the Iyengar lineage.

Jeff
[/QUOTE]

At no point am I condeming yoga or passing an opinion on it, as you say I only did it for 18 months but I did not do it for the stretching aspect.

I am merely stating that for a Martial Artist there are more effective and less time consuming methods of reaching maximal flexibility, as sport specific training for kicking is different than the goals of Yoga.

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