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#335631 - 04/18/07 08:58 AM The Way the World is
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When you awaken, when you understand, when you see, the world becomes right. We're always bothered by the problem of evil. There's a powerful story about a little boy walking along the bank of a river. He sees a crocodile who is trapped in a net. The crocodile says, "Would you have pity on me and release me? I may look ugly, but it isn't my fault, you know. I was made this way. But whatever my external appearance, I have a mother's heart. I came this morning in search of food for my young ones and got caught in this trap!"

So the boy says, "Ah, if I were to help you out of that trap, you'd grab me and kill me."

The crocodile asks, "Do you think I would do that to my benefactor and liberator?"

So the boy is persuaded to take the net off and the crocodile grabs him.

As he is being forced between the jaws of the crocodile, he says, "So this is what I get for my good actions." And the crocodile says, "Well, don't take it personally, son, this is the way the world is, this is the law of life."

The boy disputes this, so the crocodile says, "Do you want to ask someone if it isn't so?"

The boy sees a bird sitting on a branch and says, "Bird, is what the crocodile says right?" The bird says, "The crocodile is right. Look at me. I was coming home one day with food for my fledglings. Imagine my horror to see a snake crawling up the tree, making straight for my nest. I was totally helpless. It kept devouring my young ones, one after the other. I kept screaming and shouting, but it was useless. The crocodile is right, this is the law of life, this is the way the world is."

"See," says the crocodile. But the boy says, "Let me ask someone else." So the crocodile says, "Well, all right, go ahead."

There was an old donkey passing by on the bank of the river. "Donkey," says the boy, "this is what the crocodile says. Is the crocodile right?"

The donkey says, "The crocodile is quite right. Look at me. I've worked and slaved for my master all my life and he barely gave me enough to eat. Now that I'm old and useless, he has turned me loose, and here I am wandering in the jungle, waiting for some wild beast to pounce on me and put an end to my life. The crocodile is right, this is the law of life, this is the way the world is."

"See," says the crocodile. "Let's go!"

The boy says, "Give me one more chance, one last chance. Let me ask one other being. Remember how good I was to you?" So the crocodile says, "All right, your last chance."

The boy sees a rabbit passing by, and he says, "Rabbit, is the crocodile right?"

The rabbit sits on his haunches and says to the crocodile, "Did you say that to that boy? The crocodile says, "Yes, I did." "Wait a minute," says the rabbit. "We've got to discuss this." "Yes," says the crocodile. But the rabbit says, "How can we discuss it when you've got that boy in your mouth? Release him; he's got to take part in the discussion, too." The crocodile says, "You're a clever one, you are. The moment I release him, he'll run away." The rabbit says, "I thought you had more sense than that. If he attempted to run away, one slash of your tail would kill him."

"Fair enough," says the crocodile, and he released the boy. The moment the boy is released, the rabbit says, "Run!" And the boy runs and escapes. Then the rabbit says to the boy, "Don't you enjoy crocodile flesh? Wouldn't the people in your village like a good meal? You didn't really release that crocodile; most of his body is still caught in that net. Why don't you go to the village and bring everybody and have a banquet."

That's exactly what the boy does. He goes to the village and calls all the men folk. They come with their axes and staves and spears and kill the crocodile. The boy's dog comes, too, and when the dog sees the rabbit, he gives chase, catches hold of the rabbit, and throttles him. The boy comes on the scene too late, and as he watches the rabbit die, he says, "The crocodile was right, this is the way the world is, this is the law of life."

There is no explanation you can give that would explain away all the sufferings and evil and torture and destruction and hunger in the world! You'll never explain it. You can try gamely with your formulas, but you'll never explain it. Because life is a mystery, which means your thinking mind cannot make sense out of it. For that you've got to wake up and then you'll suddenly realize that reality is not problematic, you are the problem.

A. de Mello

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#335632 - 04/18/07 11:32 AM Re: The Way the World is [Re: oldman]
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Whoa. Thanks for the buzzkill.

The truth is tough to acknowledge.
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#335633 - 04/18/07 01:47 PM Re: The Way the World is [Re: oldman]
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The only problem I see is not being able to discern a lying crocodile from a rabbit.

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#335634 - 04/18/07 01:48 PM Re: The Way the World is [Re: harlan]
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Or if YOU are the crocodile or the rabbit.
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#335635 - 04/18/07 01:51 PM Re: The Way the World is [Re: MattJ]
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Don't you 'ONE' vs. 'YOU'?

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Or if YOU are the crocodile or the rabbit.



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#335636 - 04/18/07 02:05 PM Re: The Way the World is [Re: harlan]
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Just because it's been this way awhile doesn't mean we should let it happen. If I see a woman being beaten and raped on the street should I pass by saying 'this is the way of the world and must be accepted"?
Essentially you're saying it's right to allow evil to go on unchecked. Correct me if I'm wrong. You now can stand by while people do evil to others. No thanks though I can't accept that. No person with a heart could.
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#335637 - 04/18/07 02:11 PM Re: The Way the World is [Re: Stormdragon]
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Just because it's been this way awhile doesn't mean we should let it happen. If I see a woman being beaten and raped on the street should I pass by saying 'this is the way of the world and must be accepted"?





No. You'll be a hero to that one woman, and be rewarded with jailtime for wailing on someone.. and thats the way the world is.

The rabbit still saved the boy from the crocodile, but he was killed anyway. Don't expect all your favors to be returned.

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#335638 - 04/18/07 03:08 PM Re: The Way the World is [Re: Mr_Heretik]
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Quote:

No. You'll be a hero to that one woman, and be rewarded with jailtime for wailing on someone.. and thats the way the world is.

The rabbit still saved the boy from the crocodile, but he was killed anyway. Don't expect all your favors to be returned.




True don't expect your favors to be returned. But the world does work your way mine or anyone's. There is too much conflict between each other's consciousness which include opinions and decisions. And i believe that what you guy's are referring to is how america works. Here you could save a woman's life and go to jail in america, but i doubt in other countries, but i could be wrong. If morals existed then today would be different. I'm not saying i disagree or agree,But no two people think the same even if i did agree that wouldn't mean we think alike. The difference is what we seen seen, experienced, or was taught, in our past or memories, we discover in different methods than each other, but arrive at the same conclusion. I'm not saying no more cause this can go alot deeper than what it is. This is philosophy

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Edited by MattJ (04/18/07 03:11 PM)
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#335639 - 04/18/07 03:51 PM Re: The Way the World is [Re: Stormdragon]
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Quote:

Essentially you're saying it's right to allow evil to go on unchecked.



i dont think this is what the story tries to illustrate.
you should accept the fact that there will always be suffering in this world. however, you should not let yourself be paralyzed
by the suffering but rather accept it and then make the best of it.
for most people this will mean that they will try to diminish pain and anguish from their lives and their surrounding,
simply because this will make them feel better, effectivly making the best out of their lives.
but then you cannot achieve this when you are all troubled by thoughts of why there is suffering.
this is, in my eyes, what the boy in the story experiences. when he is in danger he gets all excited and over his doubt he does not even
try to change his situation for better.
when he stops questioning life he manages to escape, in the end even profiting from his actions.
doing what makes you feel better is so much easier if you focus on the doing and not on random speculation.
btw: to my mind it is curious that most people will accept joy and happiness as natural but will see the opposite as
unnatural and strange...a bit like accepting light but denying darkness...

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#335640 - 04/18/07 04:01 PM Re: The Way the World is [Re: baumschrat]
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to my mind it is curious that most people will accept joy and happiness as natural but will see the opposite as unnatural and strange...a bit like accepting light but denying darkness...




[cynic]And not just accepting light and dark in others, but also in yourself. I don't think that everyone goes through their entire life as the boy or the rabbit.[/cynic]
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