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#333197 - 04/08/07 10:35 AM Re: GSP > Sum of MMA parts [Re: matxtx]
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Registered: 01/25/03
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Loc: North Carolina
I don't think "it" will get any more sophisticated. But the FIGHTERS will.

I still believe that to be the best MMA fighter you can be, you have to be a "master" of ONE discipline. Whether it be boxing, muay Thai, wrestling, jits, doesn't matter. Be a master of one and have a passable game within the others.

Koscheck is one example. He's a master of wrestling. His stand-up is ok and his jits is ok. But he excels in wrestling.

In my opinion, wrestling is the base. It doesn't matter HOW good your striking is if you can't stay on your feet. The better fighters are often those with exceptional wresting skills. That doesn't mean they're always wrestling as many are strikers (Chuck Liddell). But it means that they are capable of staying on their feet by out wrestling their opponents.

They didn't get this wrestling skill by doing MMA. They got it by wrestling (isolating the wrestling game).

IMO, NO ONE is going to be a top level MMA fighter without ever having worked his wrestling as a stand-alone (no pun intended) art. Same with BJJ, same with boxing, etc.

And as always, I could be wrong.


#333198 - 04/09/07 10:40 AM Re: GSP > Sum of MMA parts [Re: JKogas]
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I see what you mean good points

Yea its definitly proven to work training things individualy,though it would make sense to already train from the begining with the little changes and tweaks and tactics already there and taken into account,rather than to isolate the training..than tweak it all years later.
Not jack of all trades.Master of all.Well...aim to be.

Also the angles of the body and the planes you work on change.So if you learnt as a boxer in a boxing stance ..then had to widen the stance to take care of sprawling and kicks and then hand posistions to take care of pummeling and tie ups etc...the dynamics change and how to get power in the positions and situations your in, changes.Tactics change

It definitly works well enough,its proven,it seems though that it will be taken further and could get better.
So instead of striking as a boxer..striking as an NHB fighter.
Or wrestling as NHB etc.
I dont know enough about wrestling yet to realy know all the changes there are between pure wrestling and wrestling for NHB.Im pressuming there are some though.
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